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  • FLVs Just Don’t Look Good Anymore

    Posted by Max Kaiser on December 13, 2006 at 10:42 pm

    Hi there,

    I’ve been using flash as my video delivery for the web for quite some time. Originally, when I was in the DV world, I would just export to the Flash MX2004 PRO 1.2 codec directly out of FCP with great results. Then, when I went to HDV, I noticed that everything I exported had a very strange sync issue where the video and the picture simply did not look “synced”. It wasn’t exactly drift, but it definitely wasn’t in sync. So, I got Cleaner 6.0 and used that making great looking Flash for quite some time whether HDV or DV.

    Then, one day, my .flv settings in Cleaner simply did not work anymore, they were greyed out. Must of been after some update to Quicktime or something. Anyhow, I started using Sorenson Squeeze 4.0. The video looks pretty good, but not nearly as good as it used to directly out of FCP. The edges aren’t as sharp, I get a lot of murky looking footage etc. I bought Cleaner 6.5 which touted great .flv encoding only to find it uses a terrible encoder which takes forever and looks terrible. I bought Flash 8 because I heard that encoder was good. Unfortunately, it is not even the old 2-pass .flv encoder. The on2v6 might be good, but that one is not nearly as ubiquitious as the old encoder.

    Anyhow, what I’m asking is, does anyone know what I’m talking about? What is the current way to get razor-sharp, great looking .flvs now that things seem to have gotten so weird?

    Thanks,
    Max

    Max Kaiser
    Hand Crank Films
    http://www.handcrankfilms.com

    Dual G5, 4.5 GB RAM, 9800SE Graphics
    FCP 5.02
    OS 10.4

    Max Kaiser replied 19 years, 4 months ago 5 Members · 5 Replies
  • 5 Replies
  • Jeremy Garchow

    December 13, 2006 at 10:55 pm

    Sorenson Squeeze has a special application version just for encoding for Flash.

    Jeremy

  • Keith Larsen

    December 13, 2006 at 11:38 pm

    You could also try Episode from Telestream (Flip4Mac).

    Keith Larsen
    Founder
    Connecticut Final Cut Pro User Group
    CTFCPUG

  • Bret Williams

    December 14, 2006 at 6:10 am

    Squeeze is great. I use 1 pass CBR VP6 1:1 frame rate. Looks great.

  • Chris Poisson

    December 14, 2006 at 2:43 pm

    Max,

    While the presets in Squeeze and Episode are pretty bullteproof, they nonetheless sometimes need tweaking to get better results. Try tinkering with the data rate, frame rate etc and see what you get. File sizes may be a bit bigger but it can make a big difference. Just double click on the preset in the batch window, and make all the changes you want. Your presets will remain untouched, or if you like a setting you can save it.

  • Max Kaiser

    December 15, 2006 at 11:12 pm

    Thanks guys, but none of these things did it.

    What did do it, and I wanted to post for anyone else who is going through this is: I called Sorenson and talked to a very nice, helpful tech there. He said, oh, yes, you should get Squeeze 4.5, it is faster, but more importantly, you should create a “forced non-deinterlace filter” and apply it to your movies. He said that the default in Squeeze is now to apply auto-detect deinterlacing and that often it gets it wrong. If you apply a filter in which you turn off the deinterlacing you’ll get better video. I did it, and now my video has lost the hazy fog that was obscuring it and I’m back in heaven – not to mention, my vids are compressing extremely fast.

    Sorenson kicks ass. Cleaner, does not.

    Thanks!
    Max

    Max Kaiser
    Hand Crank Films
    http://www.handcrankfilms.com

    Dual G5, 4.5 GB RAM, 9800SE Graphics
    FCP 5.02
    OS 10.4

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