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HVX200 vs. Automatic Duck
Hello everyone,
I’ve been digging around all afternoon, but have yet to find the answers to this scenario, but my apologies if it’s already been addressed.
We’re in a not-so unique situation, We’re shooting on the HVX-200 in 720p 24fps mode. In the field, we’re cleaning the cards on a powerbook, and sending them back to the DP. They are captured to an awesome little portable raid suitcase I built, and sometimes we do footage review or rough editing in the field in FCP 5.1.2. Then, we quicktime wrap the files, send them to 4 different places, they are then edited, again in FCP 5.1.2, we create an EDL so the edits can be finished at a post house on the avid in their MXF versions. (this is how the client wants to work: rough in FCP, finish on avid.)
our project sequences are the DVCpro 50 720p ones. But the *ahem* highly-priced post house can’t seem to deal with the edls and linking them to the mxf files we provide. they claim they are 30fps, but the timeline is 24, and all the EDLs seem to be as well. They also claim shifting of clip times.
I’m trying to find a workflow that will make the headaches we’ve had so far (H-PPH recreating all my edits) go away. the best would be an automatic duck-esque solution, but according to thier own website, they can’t handle 24fps material well.
Now, I know the highly-priced post house wants to take this client away from me, so they are suggesting they just do all the rough cuts there as well. I’m trying to make this as easy as possible for them. Any suggestions? any help?
thanks!
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[VenoAlex] “We’re shooting on the HVX-200 in 720p 24fps mode.”
since you are shooting 24/60– yes the footage is at 59.94 until you run it thru the Frame Rate Converter or tell FCP to remove redundant frames on ingest (fcp 5.1.2 only)[VenoAlex] “our project sequences are the DVCpro 50 720p”
Not if the footage is 720p then it is DVCPROHD not DV 50- DVCPRO 50 is SD only.[VenoAlex] “But the *ahem* highly-priced post house can’t seem to deal with the edls and linking them to the mxf files we provide. they claim they are 30fps”
Because you are telling them one thing and they are seeing something else you need to better explain what is going on.
Avid does not offer a software FRC plug-in like Final Cut does, your Avid thinks the files are 30p (29.97) However since Panasonic uses the standard 3:2 pulldown cadence for redundant frame when 24p content is embedded into the 60 fps stream a skilled avid editor should be able to reverse telecine the clips to get to 23.98. Then your edls should match.
gary adcock
Studio37
HD & Film Consultation
Post and Production Workflows
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