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  • no communication whatsoever between camcorder and final cut pro 4.5

    Posted by Bombonia on May 3, 2006 at 8:46 am

    Hi there, and thanks again for your help.
    and again, stuck in another setting…
    now, i have a 450 mhz g4
    1.12 gb sdram
    mac os x 10.4.6

    and final cut pro hd 4.5

    and i can’t get communication between my camcorder
    (sony dcr- pc 101) and the application,
    so
    i can’t output my sequence to tape.
    I need to do it right away.

    of course i can’t capture anything.
    i get to move the tape through the application, but i can’t see the sequence on the camera…

    i am pretty sure it is a setting that has been changed by mistake, and i can’t find it myself.

    the camera works, as i can capture in another computer I have (a g3 powerbook) which proves that the firewire port is ok and the cord is ok too. the reason i need to do it in this g4 instead of using the powerbook is because the sequence gets dropped frames in the g3… and by the end of the sequence, that it is less than 2 minutes long, it loses the sync audio/video.

    i have i tough deadline for this project so i need to have it solved by today, wednesday, or tomorrow thursday at the latest.

    (i also have the avid xpress dv, and there is no way i can output the sequence out to a tape, and i am less familiar with avid settings than with final cut pro -as i am used to go over and over these last ones soooo many times)

    thank you,
    bombonia

    Jim Martin replied 20 years ago 3 Members · 6 Replies
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  • Rob Forsythe

    May 3, 2006 at 11:41 am

    This list contains virtually everything to try to enable:
    a. External Monitor VIDEO and AUDIO via FireWire & DV deck or camcorder.
    b. Viewing in the Canvas window on the computer screen.
    c. Being able to record on the external FW DV deck or camcorder.
    d. Being able to capture from a FW device.

    If working this list doesn’t cure the problem… you may have a serious PROBLEM!

    Try things in this order until you find the “cure”:

    1. Make sure you have only ONE (1) FireWire deck, camcorder, DV capture “card”, or D-to-A converter or video device attached to the computer at a time. Any more than one DV device can cause loss of signal and control.
    2. Make sure you have View (Menu) > External Video> All Frames set.
    (If the ALL FRAMES option is grayed-out… jump to step 6 below and continue.)
    3. Make SURE your Canvas window (right window) in FCP is set to “Fit to Window”… AND that it has not been “pushed off” the edge of the computer screen.
    4. Make sure your CANVAS View Menu (Box Icon with broken sides) is checked on Image or Image+Wireframe… NOT just Wireframe.
    5. Make sure your CANVAS View Menu is checked on RGB… NOT just Alpha.
    6. Make sure your Final Cut Pro (menu) > Easy Setup… is set for DV-NTSC (or DV-PAL, if that’s where you are).
    7. Some camcorders/decks work better under “FW (NTSC/PAL)” -or- “FW (NTSC/PAL) Basic” control (in the capture settings). Try either setting to see which works best for your device.
    8. Make sure your Final Cut Pro (menu) > Audio/Video Settings > A/V Devices (tab) > Mirror on Desktop > must be CHECKED. (If not, playing video will not appear in the Canvas.)
    9. Make sure the “Log and Capture” Window is CLOSED and not just “hidden” behind other windows.
    10. Make sure you have chosen FW output for A/V:
    Final Cut Pro (menu) > Audio/Video Settings… >
    Video Playback: Apple FireWire NTSC (720 x480)
    Audio Playback: FireWire DV
    11. Turn off the power to the Camera/Deck/Converter Box, then turn it back ON.
    12. Make sure the camera is in VTR mode… or the deck is in DV (DV, iLink, or FW) input.
    13. On a Sony camcorder or deck, make sure the menu setting “A/V > DV Out” is set to OFF.
    14. Re-check that your FW cable is well-connected at both ends (or try a new cable).
    15. Important: Quit FCP, then Restart FCP.
    16. Now again, make sure you have View > External Video > ALL FRAMES set…

    If it still does not work. “Trash” the FCP Preferences on the Mac
    “FCP Rescue” is a free Apple Script that will Trash the Preferences.
    It will also restore your user settings afterwards.
    Download:
    https://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/14729

    If you have “lost” your entire FW connection between the Mac and the device, go HERE:
    https://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=301852

    >Then, start again at my “step 1” above.

  • Jim Martin

    May 3, 2006 at 3:00 pm

    Has it worked before with 10.4.6, or did you recently upgrade and discover the problem?
    Are you running QT 7.04?
    If it’s the latter, you need to downgrade to QT 7.01 to work with FCP4.5

  • Bombonia

    May 3, 2006 at 4:19 pm

    well… yes, it has worked before with 10.4.6 and i have QT 7.0.4
    but it has worked previously…

    also i wonder why is it that it can’t communicate when launching avid xpress dv?

    thanks so much

  • Bombonia

    May 3, 2006 at 4:23 pm

    thank you so much,
    but it doesn’t work.
    i went through your list, -and i had already done it before i posted this s.o.s. ad,
    and i can capture from the camera,
    but i cannot output the sequence back to the camera.
    what should i do now?

    best,
    bombonia

  • Rob Forsythe

    May 3, 2006 at 5:00 pm

    If you went step-by-step on my list, your camcorder is likely the problem.

    I suggest you go borrow another miniDV camcorder and try using that one.

    Also, connect another DV camcorder to YOURS via FW and see if the two units will display each other’s playback (play one tape, watch in on the other unit, and vice versa.)

    This will tell you if its your camcorder that’s the problem, or if its just in the FCP connection.

  • Jim Martin

    May 3, 2006 at 6:48 pm

    on the apple support forums: read thru the whole thread

    https://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=418691&tstart=2430

    This is for FCP 5 but might be worth a try

    https://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=301852

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