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  • HDV shots being split up on capture from JVC HD100U

    Posted by Dave Beaty on May 1, 2006 at 6:16 pm

    I have about 20 hours of tapes here shot on 3 JVC HD100U’s in 720p30 HDV. We have two people digitizing them for a reality show we are doing. They completed them last week. They are capturing the tapes in one piece with capture now. “Split clips on start stop” is not checked. After looking at the bins and noticing all these very short clips instead of one long one. I thought perhaps it was starting and stopping when the cameras were pausing, but no, the clips being created were right in the middle of shots.

    I found out the hard way about a problem with Final Cut Pro 5.0.4 splitting up HD100 clips captured via Firewire.

    When the clips split, they pick back up about 5 seconds after the split occurs. IOW, digitizing stops and starts again in the middle of a shot. Compared to the raw shots, which are continuous and have no breaks.

    I read recently on another forum, the offical fix is to use another NLE, digitize all the footage, then dump it back out to tape, then redigitize it all in Final Cut Pro? This is because of the way FCP uses the clock subcode data on the tapes to break up the clips and there’s a bug in the way FCPro reads this subcode on the JVC HD100’s tapes. I need another fix.

    Please tell me there’s a way. Even if I have to go back and have them redo these tapes.

    Does version 5.1 FCP solve this?

    Dave Beaty
    Dreamtime Entertainment
    3613 Del Prado Blvd.
    Suite 202
    Cape Coral FL 33904
    239-549-4081
    800-446-7575
    da**@********************nt.com
    http://www.dreamtimeentertainment.com

    John replied 20 years ago 4 Members · 4 Replies
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  • Bobby Mosaedi

    May 2, 2006 at 2:53 pm

    Hi Dave,

    I also own a JVC HD camera and thought my NLE was the problem (media100HD) for digitizing clips (720p30). i used a miranda dec bridge and firewire capture through FCP with no progress. still cant get my clips to capture correctly 100%. I learned that the problem is very likely with JVC. There is a firmware revision out for the BR HD50 deck AND the camera that addresses the way the camera creates the start/stop markers on the tape. we have sent our deck and camera back to JVC and once they return i will play the tapes out of the camera and re-record them to the deck. Im pretty sure i will lose all my start/stop markers but at least i will be able to batch capture so its a start. I suggest you update your equipment as well if you do not know about the revisions.

  • Dave Beaty

    May 3, 2006 at 3:27 pm

    Thanks for that info on the BR-HD50. I have been unable to find info on an update from JVC. I was hesitant to send in our decks without confirmation of a firmware flash.

    Any advice on who I should contact?

    Thanks

    Dave Beaty

    Dave Beaty
    Dreamtime Entertainment
    3613 Del Prado Blvd.
    Suite 202
    Cape Coral FL 33904
    239-549-4081
    800-446-7575
    dave@dreamtimeentertainment.com
    http://www.dreamtimeentertainment.com

  • Ian

    May 16, 2006 at 2:03 am

    Hey guys,

    You’ve guessed correctly. The error originates in the JVC camera and cannot be bypassed at this time by FCP or most NLE’s. We have worked with JVC on this and they are developinga firmware fix.

    The only way we were able to get by this problem was to capture the footage into premiere, lay the captured files back to HDV tape as one clean clip and the reload them into FCP.

    FWIW we had roughly 1200 hours to manage.

    Feel free to contact me directly with any questions.

    Ian B. Wile
    Rogue Post NYC
    ianbwile@rogue post.com

    Rogue Post
    HD Film Mastering
    Uncompressed Online
    Feature Film/Broadcast/Commercial
    212-366-5011

  • John

    May 18, 2006 at 2:18 pm

    Would it work to recapture the HD material from the Component outs of the deck to an AJA or Blackmagic card?

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