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Hard Drives for 80,000 meters of film
Am about to invest in hard drives.
The job is a 35mm feature film with about 80,000 total meters of footage to capture, yes to capture! I need a system thats going to be stable, smooth under large capacity so i want to get this right.
The reseller recomends the following Drives –
FW 800/FW400/USB2 Big Disk Extreme 2To LACIE 7200t x 2I wonder if SATA Drives would be as good / better. To be honest I dont know what the relative strengths and weaknesses are.
My system is as follows:
G5 quad 2,5GHz DP/250Go/512Mo/Superdrive/GeForce 6600
256Mo Barrette G5 Dual Core kit 2Go DDR2 PC4200 533MHz non ECC
externe 16Mo DeckLink Extreme PCI-Express
Final Cut StudioAny feedback, even a simple “you’re okay with those drives” would be reassuring.
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No to LaCie. Too many failures. I recommend G-Raids.
BUT…this all depends on what format you are going to capture. DVCAM offline masters? Then figure approx 13GB per hour. DVCPRO HD…22GB per hour. External SATA Raids are good too.
Shane Ross
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I second the “no” on LaCie drives. Do a search of this forum for “LaCie” and you’ll find all of the negative comments about those drives. Their failure rate is very high compared to other brands out on the market.
mark
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I’d recommend a Huge Systems array running RAID3. How are you capturing this film? What resolution? This will also help determine what you need. If you are capturing to Uncompressed HD then a FW800 drive just won’t cut it. Stay away from LaCie. We had a couple of the big disk extreme’s fail on us. Not pretty.
Jeremy
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Since GGParis is a little vague as to what codec he is going to use to capture, I suggest the following data rate and storage calculator be downloaded, aja.com – AJA_Data_Rate_Calculator_102b11.zip
GGParis, do a search of the posts current and archived with the following terms “SATA” “RAID”
And since he expressed his footage in meters and not minutes Greg Pak: Film Help: Tools: Footage Chart.
I haven’t come across a convenient meter to minutes footage calculator.
Inquiring minds…
Bryce WhitesideDon’t worry Mr. B. I have a cunning plan…
PowerBook 1.67 Ghz ATI 9700 128 MB 2 GB
Final Cut Pro HD
DVD Studio Pro 3
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For 4 perf 35 mm at 24 fps 1 meter ? 2.2 sec. So we are talking close to 50 hours of footage here.
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GG,
See my post above re: Roll Your Own Inexpensive SATA RAID. There is good reason that SATA drives are now the industry standard in all new computers. Firewire is very easy, and it has offered wonderful advantages for indie editors over the last several years, but it as not nearly as fast or reliable as SATA.
DRW
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Thanks everyone.
Sorry for the lack of codec info etc. Not got to the stage of working out the telecine set-up yet, this is a project in the pipeline. Ive got a six week head start on production to get my gear bought and set up, so am trying to prepare as best i can within the various budget limitations.Thanks for the clarity about lacie drives, i am glad i am hearing it now. I am sure lacie will sort themselves out in good time. For now I am onto getting a new quote for a SATA RAID system in 250GB partitions. I plan to clone all my media to enable two stations to run without the expense of fibre cahnnel / xsan etc. If the SATA proves too expensive for the money men, i’ll try G-RAID which alot of you seem to like also.
Any new developments and i’ll be back on searching your collective knowledge. I love this forum. Thanks. GGParis
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Hi,
I am with LaCie so I thought that I could add a few comments.
– Your reseller made a good recommendation 🙂 There are plenty of LaCie products that would work for you. In Firewire, Big Disk is a proven solution. Dozens of thousands of pro users are working with this product every day. LaCie Biggest F800 supports RAID (hardware controller) so your data are totally safe if one drive goes down. In SATA, you should check out our new Two Big. The price is not much higher than FW products. It allows you to extract the drives and to chose from multiple RAID level.
– There is nothing surprising about finding negative comments about our products on the Cow. People usually post when they have a problem. if you check the forum of other storage manufacturer, you will see also read about negative experience. You might notice too that it’s very often the same members who respond with their negative experience with LaCie. We always work hard in terms of reliability and customer satisfaction. But because of the volume of drives that we ship, you will always hear more about LaCie.If you have any question about products, feel free to contact me at mgasquy@lacie.com.
Hope this helps.
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Thanks for the feedback Mat. I just got a quote for the LaCie SATA system which looks very competitive. GGParis
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