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Edit to tape
Posted by Kim Rowley on November 23, 2005 at 10:12 amI am trying to output my 40 minute talking head sequence with 1 track of video and 4 tracks of audio to Digital Beta on a pre-barred and blacked tape. When I prepare the insert edit in the edit to tape window (Master or editing modes) the sequence is taking ages to prepare for output. The “writing video” window calculates “about an hour” and boy I think he’s right! Is this normal? After all the work in editing, the output stage is eating up quite a bit of time. Thanks!
Dual 2.7 GHz G5, 4GB RAM, ATI Radeon 9650, Xserve RAID, AJA IO, 2 20″ Cinema Display, FCP 5.02, OS X10.4.2
Kim Rowley replied 20 years, 5 months ago 2 Members · 8 Replies -
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Walter Biscardi
November 23, 2005 at 11:19 amDid you perform a “Render All” before performing the Edit to Tape? If not, then the one hour of “Writing Video” may be correct depending on the amount of filters you have applied to your project.
Walter Biscardi, Jr.
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Kim Rowley
November 23, 2005 at 11:34 amI think you hit the nail on the head. I did not do that and did indeed put a color correction filter on the duration of the sequence. I see that I will quickly develop a habit of Rendering all before output to tape. Since I wasn’t getting the red render line in my sequence it didn’t even come to mind. Thanks Walter.
Dual 2.7 GHz G5, 4GB RAM, ATI Radeon 9650, Xserve RAID, AJA IO, 2 20″ Cinema Display, FCP 5.02, OS X10.4.2
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Walter Biscardi
November 23, 2005 at 11:45 am[Kim Rowley] “Since I wasn’t getting the red render line in my sequence it didn’t even come to mind.”
That’s the beauty of Dynamic RT in FCP 5. It allows you to keep working by slightly degrading the video quality and letting you work in realtime. But when it comes time to actually output to tape, everything must be rendered.
Walter Biscardi, Jr.
https://www.biscardicreative.com“The Rough Cut,” an original short film premiering December 7th in full High Definition in Atlanta.
rsvp@biscardicreative.com to reserve seats.
https://www.theroughcutmovie.comNow editing “Good Eats” in HD for the Food Network
“I reject your reality and substitute my own!” – Adam Savage, Mythbusters
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Kim Rowley
November 23, 2005 at 4:16 pmWalter – or anybody else… I hate to overstay my welcome on this issue but I’m having one final (I hope) settings conflict that I haven’t been able to overcome. I am outputting 4 channels of audio to Digibeta via SDI connector straight from the AJA I/O. In E-E mode the 4 channels flow through to the Deck fine, but when I try to edit to tape, I am only seeing 2 yellow dots for output to Ch 1 and 2. I’ve checked the A/V settings and have 8 channels possible but that option is not carrying over to the possible channels available in the edit to tape window. Where am I missing something? Thanks again.
Dual 2.7 GHz G5, 4GB RAM, ATI Radeon 9650, Xserve RAID, AJA IO, 2 20″ Cinema Display, FCP 5.02, OS X10.4.2
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Walter Biscardi
November 23, 2005 at 4:21 pm[Kim Rowley] “. Where am I missing something? Thanks again.”
Go into your Sequence Settings and set the Audio Output to 4 Channels.
Now you need to manually set Channel 3 to output to Channel 3. Same for Channel four.
Walter Biscardi, Jr.
https://www.biscardicreative.com“The Rough Cut,” an original short film premiering December 7th in full High Definition in Atlanta.
rsvp@biscardicreative.com to reserve seats.
https://www.theroughcutmovie.comNow editing “Good Eats” in HD for the Food Network
“I reject your reality and substitute my own!” – Adam Savage, Mythbusters
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Kim Rowley
November 23, 2005 at 4:32 pmHave my sequence settings open – audio outputs set to 4 – am seeing 4 output channels (dual mono) but the only option I have is to change their dB output levels. No sign of how to manually patch channels. I have manually patched in the audio mixer of FCP in the tools menu. As I say, if I just hit play in my sequence, I am seeing all 4 channels both in the audio mixer of FCP as well as in my deck. The problem arises only in the edit to tape window. I’m going to see if I have the same problem in the print to video window… Only into my third month of FCP after 8 years of M100. Wouldn’t think of going back. I love FCP but M100 was a little more seamless ot this stage of the workflow. I only say that since if I’m not mistaken you are a past M100 user too…
Dual 2.7 GHz G5, 4GB RAM, ATI Radeon 9650, Xserve RAID, AJA IO, 2 20″ Cinema Display, FCP 5.02, OS X10.4.2
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Kim Rowley
November 23, 2005 at 5:44 pmJust for the benefit of readers of this thread, I opted for laying to tape in 2 passes. The print to video command turned out to be no good since my Master tape must begin at 00:02:30:00 and precision is not possibile with that option. Hopefully I’ll nail down the problem for future projects. One other thing I learned from this experience is to be careful about what your scratch disk is for render files. Mine was on my internal drive and since as Walter correctly said earlier I needed to render before laying out to tape since a cc filter was used. Almost 150 gig later I realized that my sequence was now on my internal drive! I may be the only one out there who could master such a thing but if it can be useful to anybody else…
Dual 2.7 GHz G5, 4GB RAM, ATI Radeon 9650, Xserve RAID, AJA IO, 2 20″ Cinema Display, FCP 5.02, OS X10.4.2
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Kim Rowley
November 25, 2005 at 3:11 pmOK – got the answer a minute a go over on the AJA forum. I’ve copied and pasted the response for the sake of completing the story in this forum too. I’ve checked out the settings menu in question and that was the culprit.
Check your A/V Settings in the Device Control tab, click Edit. Check to see if the deck’s audio mapping is set to 4 tracks. If that doesn’t fix it, then, try dragging your master sequence to the Viewer, not the Canvas, and ETT from the Viewer.
steve covello
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