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Activity Forums Apple Final Cut Pro Legacy Media Manager still broken in 5.0.3

  • Tunaking

    October 26, 2005 at 5:45 am

    It’s sad. Really sad. Their too busy to get FCP working on Intel to realize that the PowerPC version still isn’t working right. How long do we have to wait? 2007?

    Media Management is key for professionals.

  • Samuel Frazier

    October 26, 2005 at 6:36 am

    Sorry, more of my random anger/sarcasm here, but why would you need Media Management when you can put video on an ipod’s glorious 2″ screen?
    Again sorry, random anger over. But, it would be nice to see reliable Media Management some day.

  • David Battistella

    October 26, 2005 at 12:41 pm

    What exactly i sthe problem with media manager. It has been working perfectly for me.

    David

  • Arnie Schlissel

    October 26, 2005 at 3:46 pm

    [CharlieX2] “I still see that “Delete Unused Media” isn’t working. Super. “

    In my experience, most of the ‘bugs’ in the media manager are due to people either not logging their media & reel numbers properly, or not using the proper options in MM. Cause, I’ve got to tell you it’s worked for me on some pretty complex projects.

    Arnie
    https://www.arniepix.com

  • David Bogie

    October 26, 2005 at 3:57 pm

    There are hundreds of major production houses where FCP is the only NLE tool and Media Manager is a solid part of the workflow in all formats. I have it on very good authority that Media Manager is not slated for revision because it simply works dependably and as intended for the vast majority of FCP users.

    I’m with you, though: I hate it, it’s busted, it’s stupid, the interface is lame and the results are completely unpredictable

  • Craig Seeman

    October 26, 2005 at 4:29 pm

    Media manager can’t seem to deal with Freeze Frames and speed changes of any sort in my experience.

  • Chi-ho Lee

    October 26, 2005 at 5:52 pm

    They were supposed to have fixed that in this version but I just did a recompress from HDV to 10bit SD and my constant speed clips ended up being variable speed clips. Doesn’t look completely fixed yet…

    -CHL

    Chi-Ho Lee
    Film & Video Editor
    Apple Certified Final Cut Pro Trainer

  • Tunaking

    October 26, 2005 at 7:00 pm

    To Arniepix,

    The problems with Media Manager have nothing to do with improper logging (although boy, if you do log poorly, you are hosed!).

    My problems with Media Manager come when I try to do high definition onlines of projects offlined in SD.

    Here’s a list of problems.

    1) Delete Unused Media is not reliable. There is only one setting where Delete unused media works, however there are consequences. There is also a very unsettling part to the Delete Unused media is that it behaves differently if you have media attached or not. If you media manage a sequence where the media is offline, it will not delete anything!

    So, if you want to delete unused media. Choose Create Offline. Delete Unused. Do not pick include Master Clips. Make sure your media is online.

    This setting will delete unused media. However, there is a catch. If you have any clips that have been reversed (speed -100%). These will be converted to a clip of a single frame in length.

    If your media is not attached. NOTHING will be deleted. On the bright side, the reversed clip gets properly media managed. (How weird is that?)

    2) If you choose, include Master Clips. It includes the Master Clips. In version 4.5 it would trim these. In FCP 5, it doesn’t. To be honest, I think that is working fine. But you often will have too much media to online with in HD (storage issues). Plus, why would you want to capture hours and hours of unneeded footage.

    3) Other problems I’ve seen with MM, is when you go from DV Anamorphic 16X9 to HD 1920X1080 Square pixel HD, things like garbage mattes and whatnot don’t track. Everything seems to stretch horizontally (not the media, just the garbage matte info). This can tack on many hours to your online.

  • Annaël Beauchemin

    October 26, 2005 at 8:11 pm

    it has been broken since v 4.0… why do we have multicam when speed changes

  • Sean Oneil

    October 27, 2005 at 2:49 am

    [TK] “If your media is not attached. NOTHING will be deleted. On the bright side, the reversed clip gets properly media managed. (How weird is that?)”

    I’d like everyone to read this wonderful quote carefully. This is 100% the truth. Every single time someone brings up this issue in the Cow, about half the replies are “MM works fine for me, you’re not using it right” (in so many words). I just fear that people at Apple think the same thing, even though it’s not the case whatsoever.

    Sean

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