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Media Manager still broken in 5.0.3
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Did you report this stuff…particularly the weirdness involving reverse speed..to Apple using the FCP feedback menu link?
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These issues have been reported over and over again … including to Apple.
One can only assume that it is a extremely complicated fix that would include fundamental design changes to the software’s code base, why else would it remain unfixed?I am one of those that happily report that MM works consistantly and reliably for me, but always with the caveat that one needs to manually manage any speed affected clips (including stills and variable or constant speed changes including reverses) and rebuild the effect post MM. Similarly you need to avoid nested sequences. FWIW another issue is that Media Manager can not move clips greater than 2GB in size between network locations. Anyway, the point here is that many large organisations are using MM effectively on a daily basis, but all that are doing so are fully aware of the limitations and so take steps to avoid them.
It aint pretty. In fact its a royal pain in the proverbial. There’s no way Apple are not aware of these issues and their very specific causes. Hence my conclusion above … there must be some fundamental reason for not addressing the problem.
And don’t hold your breath waiting for it either, this is not a minor point release issue, no way (although I’d be ecstatic to be proved wrong).
Many were hoping FCP5 was the major rewrite that would fix it. Now many are hoping that it will happen in FCP6.Just my 2 cents.
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[Andy Mees] “One can only assume that it is a extremely complicated fix that would include fundamental design changes to the software’s code base, why else would it remain unfixed?”
That’s how it’s been explained to me. The MM issues are right at the core of how FCP’s database manages the various files. To “fix” the MM would require a complete re-structuring of how FCP’s database works.
I’ve had a very simple request for almost four years now. Give me the same ability I had in Media 100. Duplicate an offline timeline, Select Batch Capture, Set the new capture Resolution, Capture all the footage in the timeline at High Rez. It was so simple and worked brilliantly.
Try that in FCP and you’ll get tons of additional footage you didn’t want to capture.
Walter Biscardi, Jr.
https://www.biscardicreative.comNow editing “Good Eats” in HD for the Food Network
“I reject your reality and substitute my own!” – Adam Savage, Mythbusters
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Walter,
We were all spoiled by Avid and Media 100’s ability to utilize these PRO features. NObody ever expected FCP (the new kid on the block) to be so weak at managing media.
For freeze frames. Take the time to export them as pict files and reimport them and cut them back in. Make this part of your workflow and you can avoid the freeze frame issues. For speed. I think that the constant speed clips are fine, but the ramping clips are at the heart of the problem.
The real problem is that none of the media management in FCP ever assumes that you might want to recapture and this was a bad design from the onset. The language of the MM is cumbersome, because it uses words like “delete” media when you actually are not deleting media. we are all used to the term handles.
The best thing to do is have the offline editors create the online sequences when the media is online, or maybe we should all be using XML a lot more to move projects rather than opening the project files with no media attached.
It’s not seemless, but a few of these workarounds might help. I wish tehy would spend a bit of time at these “core” “pro”issues rather than giving us more gizmo and flash. We know it’s great software, let’s make it better Apple.
David
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another fix I’ve been using on the last 3 jobs i had to online that were offlined in fcp 5.
Export an XML v1, open it in FCP 4.5, use Media Manager there, open resulting project in FCP 5. This works fine for speed changes, Basic Motion, and Crop settings. Just used it to do a music video that opens on 25 little picons of video, down to 16, down to 8, etc….
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Hi,
If you go to the following website, it gives instructions for successful onlining in Final Cut Pro. Several users have mentioned that MM does not handle some “speed changes” or “reverse” action. This is true. The program costs $1000. It actually has a media manager which does work when your offline media is still online. One thousand bucks. That’s pretty impressive. So you have a few speed clips or reverse clips or maybe a dozen other tweaks to make. Isn’t that what onlining is. It is hard to compare a $1000 program with an Avid or Media 100. There are reasons these systems cost more, they are more RELIABLE. But, we can all admit that FCP works really well for what is and it allows most of us to afford the equipment we need to stay in business.
Read the following link, keeo your offline media online until your project is done and just deal with tweaking the few clips you need to in order to endure that your project sings.
https://www.lafcpug.org/basic_onlining.html
Good Luck,
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MM is a NIGHTMARE with speed fx & stills. I spend 1-4 hours EVERY WEEK fixing these problems in our episodic television onlines. We even discourage our editors from using speed fx at all, because this fault is so bad. Very frustrating Apple! Quite simply, the time I spend fixing this, is the amount of time I DON’T get to see my wife & 2 year old son every week. 🙁
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[Dyson2005] “We even discourage our editors from using speed fx at all, because this fault is so bad.”
They should create the speed changes in a separate timeline to make it easier for you to go back and re-set the speeds correctly. Basically drop the clip into a timeline, call it speed FX or something like that, change the speed of the clip, double click that clip back into the Viewer and now apply the clip to the timeline.
Then when you use the MM, don’t delete the old media. You can use that speed timeline to quickly recreate all the speeds with the uprez’d footage. Should cut at least 2 hours off your fixes. 🙂
Walter Biscardi, Jr.
https://www.biscardicreative.comNow editing “Good Eats” in HD for the Food Network
“I reject your reality and substitute my own!” – Adam Savage, Mythbusters
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Go get an Avid, it has an amzing media tool, AMAZING!
Craig
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[Craig Ernst] “Go get an Avid, it has an amzing media tool, AMAZING!”
Oh gosh, Final Cut Pro would have to be completely unusable for me to even consider an AVID. So how much does it cost to put together an uncompressed 1080i HD AVID system these days? Anybody?
Walter Biscardi, Jr.
https://www.biscardicreative.comNow editing “Good Eats” in HD for the Food Network
“I reject your reality and substitute my own!” – Adam Savage, Mythbusters
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