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Is HDV 24p possible in FCP 5
I’m looking at the JVC ProHD GY-HD100U and want to cut in 24p HDV mode. So far it looks like this is not possible w/o 3rd party plug-ins (Lumiere HD)
Does anyone have experience w/ this?
Bee
G5 dual 2.0/5.5gig/sonnet allegro FW800 PCI/3X250 LaCie FW800 extreme/AJA Io/Horita BSG-50/DSR-45/DSR-11/M-Audio Delta 1010LT/JVC Hi-Res Ref Monitor/stock Radeon video card/Prod Suite/Logic 7.1
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No, it is not possible to cut in 24p HDV mode. BUT, why would you want to do that since you can edit in other HD 24p modes that are much better. That is its dependent upon your capture card and your tape machine. But for doing HDV 24p, not yet. I have a feeling that is because the Sony 24p HDV is so bad that Apple decided to stay away from it until it is fixed. But I don’t see that happening just yet. Keep in mind that HDV is a stepping stone for the bigger and better HD signals.
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Thanks for replying, Wayne-
I have an opportunity to work on a doc where the DOP will be using that JVC camera & I need to upgrade, so I was trying to figure out if I could take the project-I don’t have a true HD Ref Monitor, and from what I have seen of the stats on the JVC, I should be able to work w/ the data rates. What confuses me is the overall system requirements for HDV- it seems to be an in-between format…true HD would of course be impossible on my present config, but a 1394 connection bringing signal at @ 25mbytes/sec seems entirely doable.
I realize this is a whole new post, but I thought I would ask whether in your opinion what I am proposing sounds realistic…
Thanks!
Bee
G5 dual 2.0/5.5gig/sonnet allegro FW800 PCI/3X250 LaCie FW800 extreme/AJA Io/Horita BSG-50/DSR-45/DSR-11/M-Audio Delta 1010LT/JVC Hi-Res Ref Monitor/stock Radeon video card/Prod Suite/Logic 7.1
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It should work, as long as your FW800 drive is seperate from the AJA IO. The important thing to remember is sustained throughput. Meaning, if your drive is capable of, let’s say 150 mb/s but your sustained speed is only 30 mb/s, then this drive may not be able to handle multiple streams for editing. Just remember when purchasing a drive of any sort, always look at the sustained throughput in mb/s. The drive box or an ad will only tell you what the drive is capable of, not what it does on the average. In that case, you’ll need to contact the drive manufacturer to see if it will work for you. In your case, a firewire 800 drive should work just fine as long as you are working in the HDV codec. Now, you might only get two streams in realtime but that’s ok if your not under a serious deadline.
Just keep in mind that we all have to work under a budget and sometimes we have to do things that are not conventional. We all want the biggest and the best hardware available but we all can’t afford it. So, next time, just try a little experiment and see what happens. You never know, you might just do something that someone will say “Wow… you did that only using this?” That’s how all of us here on the COW have learned our lessons.
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Wayne-
Thanks! I have the FW800 drives coming in through a Sonnet card. The Io would have to be disconnected while digitizing so I can get to the G5’s FW bus. I think things should work fine…
Bee
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Hello all
I have been reading and following all the threads related to HDV worflow. I am in Dubai, United Arab Emirates. I am working on an hour long documentray shot completely on HDV using the Sony camera. I have about 22 hours of footage, which I will be looking at tomorrow.
I wanted some suggestions on my workflow. I am working with FCP 5, a G5 dual processor, 2GB, no capture card, but can get one if needed.
I have been deciding to edit native HDV, capture all the footage via firewire onto 500GB FW800 drives. But it seems like almost everyone prefers converting the HDV footage to an i-frame format. but what’s the point of having the native codec, if you are going to convert everything.
Secondly, considering the amount of footage I have, i can’t convert it to a 10-bit uncompressed format. It would take way too much time.
My next option is to downconvert my HDV footage during capture to DV-PAL. Am I going to lose a lot of picture quality? What are the cons if I stay native?
My master has to be a digibeta PAL.
Please advise me on my workflow. I don’t have a capture card, but I can get one if it is essential to my edit and the final output.
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[BeeLaster] “‘m looking at the JVC ProHD GY-HD100U and want to cut in 24p HDV mode. So far it looks like this is not possible w/o 3rd party plug-ins (Lumiere HD)
Does anyone have experience w/ this?”
Any news on whether this is fixed now …?
Thanks !
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Nope…. Not yet! I don’t forsee this being fixed by Apple anytime soon. At least, until there is a major update. Until then, it would be much better and more beneficial to purchase an HDV to HD converter and capture in actual HD rather than HDV.
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Schazam Productions
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