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  • FCP Drop Frame warning

    Posted by Dale Fakess on July 23, 2005 at 1:18 am

    I’m working with FCP 4.5 on a G5 2.5 MHz with 3 gigs of RAM. I’ve got a KONA AJA card. When playing back video I continually get a Warning Dropped frame error, the video in on the canvas is intermittant and the playback stops. I’ve made a self-contained movie and played it back with the same results. I’ve turned off the RT Unlimited feature. There are other options that are suggested that I’m not sure how to do, such as lower the compression data rate. I’m presently capturing video at: AJAKona2 525 29.97 8bit. I’m capturing BETACAM SX. The warning also states I should try increasing the speed of my system. I’m not sure that’s the problem since I’ve got a G5 with 3 gigs of RAM. My media drive is an Apple RAID. I can’t imagine having to speed up the drives.

    I would appreciate any advice or thoughts on how to solve my problem.

    Thanks in advance.

    Dale Fakess

    Filip replied 20 years, 9 months ago 5 Members · 10 Replies
  • 10 Replies
  • Michael Peele

    July 23, 2005 at 1:47 am

    Does your canvas window have scroll bars on the left or bottom? Make sure your canvas window is set to “Fit to window”
    Mike Peele

  • Dale Fakess

    July 23, 2005 at 1:52 am

    Mike,
    My scroll bar is on the bottom and the canvas is set to fit to window.

    Dale

  • Michael Peele

    July 23, 2005 at 2:09 am

    Okay,
    I should have been more clear – your canvas should have no scroll bars. If set to “fit to window” there should be no scroll bars on the canvas window.
    I assume when you say the scroll bar is on the bottom, you mean the bottom of your timeline (that’s normal).

    Is this a new setup? Make sure that your software/drivers/firmware is up to date.
    Follow this link: https://www.aja.com/support_kona.html for more info on your card, OS, and setup.
    There is even something specific about 10.3.9, Kona, and Apple RAID’s.

    If everything looks good, try a new project and make sure all your settings are correct before you begin capturing and laying on the timeline.

    Mike Peele

  • Dale Fakess

    July 23, 2005 at 3:06 am

    Mike,
    This is a relatively new setup. All drivers and firmware are up to date. I created a new sequence and dropped bars and tone into it and still got the drop frame message.

    Dale

  • Michael Peele

    July 23, 2005 at 6:33 am

    Hmmm…
    What kind of RAID array are you running? You said Apple RAID – like Xserve RAID or is a software RAID? How many drives and what level of RAID? Is there plenty of free space on it? If it is set to RAID 3 or 5, try RAID 0. You lose fault-tolerance but gain some speed (although the most basic configuration of 4x250GB drives should support *at least* one stream of video.

    Hmmm…
    Trash your preferences for both FCP and QT (this is easy, quick, painless and solves a lot of issues).

    Ummm…
    Some people have complained of issues with Journaled drives – you may want to disable journaling on your media drive.

    Ughhh….
    Virus protection or Norton or any other cr*p running in the background – disable it.

    Errr…
    That’s all I can think of now. Time to go kill some brain cells at the bar!

    Good luck!
    Mike Peele

    P.S. – Can’t remember how specific AJA is about the Kona cards going into the “correct” slots, but you may want to make sure everything is where it should be.

  • Filip

    July 23, 2005 at 2:00 pm

    hello there,

    i have absolutelly same problem with dropped frames, but my configuration is totaly different – blackmagic HD card, sata raid, and internal disks. one system disk and one 400Gb sata.

    i do not know what to do. trashing FCP preferences helps just when you are dragging mouse thru timeline and instead of jumping it behaves normally (smooth movement).

    but anyhow system stops during a day (+- 8h work) aboout 8-10 times or sometimes even more.

    i tryed with different materials hdv, dv, digibeta, and HD. worst case is DV?????? for unknown reason. i have 4GB ram, probably fastest sata drives, and still info is saying tha same thing. i do not have enough money to buy cray computer for editing 🙂

    is this maybe connected with QT? because i cannot imagine that this is speed issue. blackmagic hard drive test is saying that on single sata disk i can reach about 50 something frames in pal. on striped sata about 200 frames for pal. if this is not enough for compressed DV, then what is?

    need help also!!!

    all the best,

    filip

  • Walter Biscardi

    July 23, 2005 at 3:30 pm

    [filip] “but anyhow system stops during a day (+- 8h work) aboout 8-10 times or sometimes even mor”

    Something is VERY wrong with your setup. I’m running FCP 5.0 with 10.4.1 (haven’t run the updates yet) and haven’t crashed in about 3 weeks now.

    since you didn’t post any information about your setup (mac hardware, os, software, etc….) i have no idea where to suggest you start. The only thing I can say is to ensure that you are running an approved setup per BlackMagic and Apple specs.

    You can view my Profile to see the three hardware setups I’m running and all are running about perfectly in their configs.

    Walter Biscardi, Jr.
    Creative Genius, Biscardi Creative Media
    https://www.biscardicreative.com

    Now in Production, “The Rough Cut,” https://www.theroughcutmovie.com

    “I reject your reality and substitute my own!” – Adam Savage, Mythbusters

  • Mrcid_2000

    July 27, 2005 at 2:44 am

    Hi. Im having the same problem, the only difference is that it started happening all of a sudden in my system. Everytime I have the “PlayHead Sync” in “Open” the dropped frames window appears. I tried to do everything the window suggest me to do, yet nothing seems to solve the problem. Im new to both Mac and editing therefore I dont really have a clue on what to do. Regarding my system information it’s a G5, Mac OS X 10.4.2, 8 Gigs RAM, ATI Radeon 9650, FCP 5…

  • Filip

    July 29, 2005 at 12:06 am

    to walter:

    walter, i checked everything and still the same issue.
    removed all fcp preferences, and QT preferences. nothing changes – it crashes/stops 8-10 times in 6-8 h time.

    system: 10.4.2
    fcp: 5.0.2
    memory: 4,5Gb ram
    internal disks:
    maxtor 250 Gb; seagate sata 400gb
    Power Mac G5 2.7GHz
    QT 7.0.1

    i do not know what to do. will system re- instalation and FCP re- instalation change something?

    thanks,

    filip

  • Filip

    July 29, 2005 at 12:08 am

    to walter:

    walter, i checked everything and still the same issue.
    removed all fcp preferences, and QT preferences. nothing changes – it crashes/stops 8-10 times in 6-8 h time.

    system: 10.4.2
    fcp: 5.0.2
    memory: 4,5Gb ram
    internal disks:
    maxtor 250 Gb; seagate sata 400gb
    Power Mac G5 2.7GHz
    QT 7.0.1
    blackmagic decklink hd card.

    i do not know what to do. will system re- instalation and FCP re- instalation change something?

    thanks,

    filip

    p.s. a am using my fcp now as normal/standard resolution editing. just plane DV!!!! nothing extra. and still it stops… :((((

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