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  • 1975 Umatic 3/4″ video machine plays color for 1 minute then goes black and white

    Posted by Steve Hartwell on June 10, 2015 at 3:11 pm

    1975 Umatic 3/4″ video machine plays color for 1 minute then goes black and white

    I cleaned the drum head several times, even whacked it with my boot a few times.

    Is it a boat anchor ? or might there be an easy fix I don’t know of.

    Steve Hartwell replied 10 years, 11 months ago 4 Members · 13 Replies
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  • Joe Barta iv

    June 10, 2015 at 3:36 pm

    It might be as simple as a board swap. Those decks were made to be easily serviced. Finding someone with parts and who knows how to repair them is the trick.

    If you have a lot of footage to transfer it might be worth it to fix. If you only have a couple of tapes then it would be better to send them off to a transfer service.

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  • David Roth weiss

    June 10, 2015 at 4:19 pm

    In the day, I saw that type of intermittent behavior caused by a funky cable connection. What type of connection does that deck use, composite or SVHS? (***If there is no SVHS connection on any 3/4 machines, I might be confusing my own 3/4 deck with my BetaSP deck)

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  • Steve Hartwell

    June 10, 2015 at 6:00 pm

    I appreciate the effort to make the suggestions, board swap, and if only a few tapes take to somebody else

    but they are totally irrelevant to my question.

    thanks anyways though for the effort.
    steve

  • Steve Hartwell

    June 10, 2015 at 6:12 pm

    David,

    good and relevant suggestions, thanks.

    It has several connectors, the other I don’t recall what, some sort of blue rectangular multi-pin, but, it does have Composite and RF Out connectors. The RF appears to be the same as still comes into people’s homes from Cable TV/Internet services.

    I did try a different composite cable, and the RF too.

    Same results.

    It plays colour for about 1 minute, then the colour begins to fade and flicker, and then it disappears in a flash, one resolution line after the other from top of screen to bottom, and it’s gone.

    I am assuming it’s a board finally gone bad after 40 years – like the other guy suggested – which makes it a good boat anchor.

  • Mads Nybo jørgensen

    June 11, 2015 at 8:47 am

    Hey Steve,

    What are you monitoring the deck on?
    Straight to video monitor for confidence, or through a digital video capture system?
    (Just making sure that it isn’t software going B/W)

    It is soo long since I edited on U-Matic, and I was working in PAL – none of the “Not The Same Color” Twice stuff 😉
    However, could it be a Low- / High-band tape issue?

    Lastly: What Black burst (sync) are you feeding the box? Seem to remember if it doesn’t have a stable sync, this could affect the colors – unlikely, but worth trying.

    If everything else fails: Capture 1 minute at a time and stitch it together later on a NLE or similar.

    Hope this helps?

    All the Best
    Mads

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  • Steve Hartwell

    June 11, 2015 at 3:13 pm

    Really nice to chat with you about this 🙂

    I’m going thru DVD burner to consumer TV for monitor. No probs with DVD burner or TV monitor, other tape sources retain colours.

    My test Umatic tape goes B&W too same way.

    I don’t have any signal adjusting equipment like fixing sync

    Whenever I try from scratch playback is colour for 1 or 2 minutes, the customer’s tape displays a colour bar test screen perfectly, but, after colour disappears, and I rewind try again, no colours, I have to shut off the Umatic machine, wait, power it up, then I might get a bit more in colour.

    To get all 7 minutes would take me more years than I have left on this planet. 🙁

    The customer’s tape was recorded in 1994, why on Umatic in 1994 is a good question. I did the whole 7 minutes to DVD with a few spots in colour. She was happy to get what I could do for her.

    So, I guess a sorta happy ending anyways.

    thanks for the chat, eh !
    steve

  • David Roth weiss

    June 11, 2015 at 5:00 pm

    Steve,

    I was thinking about this overnight, and I kinda remembered that 3/4 decks required an incoming video signal to supply sync. At least I think I remember that…

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    David Weiss Productions

    David is a Creative COW contributing editor and a forum host of the Apple Final Cut Pro forum.

  • Steve Hartwell

    June 11, 2015 at 5:25 pm

    Don’t know about that stuff David, it’s all greek to me I’m sorry to say.

    I can say I didn’t have any trouble some years ago when I transferred my test tape using the machine.

    Anyways, the customer tape is gone now, so, guess it’s end of story.

    much thanks for trying to help.

    steve

  • Mads Nybo jørgensen

    June 11, 2015 at 5:32 pm

    Hey Steve,

    It can be as simple as taking composite video signal from another old vtr playing back a tape with no “holes” in the recording. Normally you need a BNC cable which goes into “sunc” or “Video In” on the U-Matic – depending on your model of vtr.

    All the Best
    Mads

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  • David Roth weiss

    June 11, 2015 at 5:45 pm

    Yep, Mads the mad man has it right…

    I wonder how many synapses both of us restored collectively to dredge those memories up from the depths of our internal storage arrays?

    David Roth Weiss
    Director/Editor/Colorist
    David Weiss Productions

    David is a Creative COW contributing editor and a forum host of the Apple Final Cut Pro forum.

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