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  • Color management – OS X, Quicktime, Premiere

    Posted by Jack Lenk on March 27, 2014 at 2:58 pm

    Hi, I just got a fancy monitor and calibrated it with X-Rite i1 Display Pro. Now I’m noticing a major discrepancy in how my videos appear across programs. All my video in Premiere appears super-saturated with strong reds. The SAME video files look duller and less red in QT player, but in VLC player they look same as in Premiere.

    I’ve tried XDCAM-EX MP4 files, Quicktime ProRes 422 files, and h.264 web exports. All same variation between programs. The crazy thing is all these files look dark as night in FCP7 (yea, I fired up that old beast just to see!).

    Please help me see the light!

    gear:
    MacPro OS 10.9.2
    Dell U2713H monitor
    Premiere 7.2.1
    X-rite i1 Profiler 1.5.0 with XRD 2.3.2.18

    Walter Soyka replied 12 years, 1 month ago 5 Members · 4 Replies
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  • Vince Becquiot

    March 27, 2014 at 5:37 pm

    That’s mostly a Quicktime gamma issue, especially on a Windows side, not a whole lot you can do about it that I’m aware of.

    Vince Becquiot

    Indigo Live | Kaptis Media

    San Francisco Bay Area

  • Dustin Parsons

    March 27, 2014 at 7:12 pm

    I asked the same question recently: https://forums.creativecow.net/thread/335/66624

    Some people suggested encoding to X.264 through Episode Pro or giving the Ogg codec a shot. Haven’t tried either of those but seeing as it’s messed up for you no matter what codec you use there doesn’t seem to be a solution yet… sigh.

  • Tero Ahlfors

    March 28, 2014 at 5:25 am

    [Jack Lenk] “The SAME video files look duller and less red in QT player, but in VLC player they look same as in Premiere.”

    You can’t trust QT player at all so if you’re doing something color critical don’t use that.

  • Walter Soyka

    March 28, 2014 at 1:27 pm

    [Jack Lenk] “Hi, I just got a fancy monitor and calibrated it with X-Rite i1 Display Pro. Now I’m noticing a major discrepancy in how my videos appear across programs. All my video in Premiere appears super-saturated with strong reds.”

    Premiere Pro is not color-managed — in other words, it is not doing the math of converting color values from your source media (probably Rec. 709) to your monitor’s space. Instead, it’s just blasting the source RGB values to the monitor without any color-managing translation.

    In fact, I don’t believe any of the apps you’re using are color-managed. Using a calibrated video monitor and a video I/O card is the easiest solution.

    Walter Soyka
    Principal & Designer at Keen Live
    Motion Graphics, Widescreen Events, Presentation Design, and Consulting
    RenderBreak Blog – What I’m thinking when my workstation’s thinking
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