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Equivalent of Pro Res in Premiere Pro?
First I apologize if this post is naive, I’m a bit confused with Apple codec.
I have to edit a movie shot with a DSLR in Premiere Pro CS6 on Mac. When I configure the time line settings I have an option to choose DSLR on the editing mode but then the preview settings are locked to CODEC: MPEG 1 Frame.
Do I really need to edit in ProRess as I’m told to as not too loose quality, and if so should I get the Apple ProRes QuickTime Decoder 1.0 for Mac?I have an option to choose ‘Custom’ in the editing mode but then I’m at lost what to choose in video preview: is Apple Intermediate Codec the equivalent of ProRess?
Basically what should I choose to get the best result and a screenable movie on big screen at the end? Initial footage resolution is 1920×1080 at 24fps.
Thank you for your help!!!
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[Veronica Orlova] “Do I really need to edit in ProRess as I’m told to as not too loose quality, and if so should I get the Apple ProRes QuickTime Decoder 1.0 for Mac?”
No. There is no Adobe codec like there is for Avid (DNxHD) or Apple (ProRes). Adobe edits formats natively…no need to recompress. Bring in the camera raw and edit that. Works fine.
[Veronica Orlova] “Basically what should I choose to get the best result and a screenable movie on big screen at the end?”
Screenable HOW? Vimeo? YouTube? DVD? BluRay? Broadcast TV? Theater projection? Need to know this before we can advise.
Shane
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Thank you so much Shane,
I’m very grateful for the quick reply. The editor I talked to told me that she only use ProRess and that there is no way one can edit in H 264 this is why i try to understand what settings/codecs to use with Premiere CS6. The original files (with some exception shot with the Black Magic Cinema Camera) come from a Canon 5DIII and are Quicktime file in 1920×1080. I am just not sure which settings to use to start this project with these files.By screenable I mean Theater projection. This is just to anticipate if the best scenario happens and I’m asked to do a DCP down the road. I don’t want to make mistakes at the start which I won’t be able to fix later on.
PS: The editor I mentioned is pro: she was second assistant editor on The Pianist, and first editor on a lot of features. But since she works with Final Cut and lives in France it’s hard for her to gives me accurate advises. That’s when I really need yours! Please let me know what settings I should use.
Thank you —- waiting for your answer and views.
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[Veronica Orlova] “The editor I talked to told me that she only use ProRess and that there is no way one can edit in H 264”
This editor must be using Avid or FCP. Editing H.264 native in those is NOT recommended…very problematic. But Premiere Pro isn’t Avid nor FCP…it’s a different application with different ways of working. H.264 and pretty much every camera format works native in it.
[Veronica Orlova] “By screenable I mean Theater projection. This is just to anticipate if the best scenario happens and I’m asked to do a DCP down the road.”
Cool. Then talk to the people who will need the DCP and ask them what they need from you in order to do that. You can download the Avid Codecs, or buy Compressor and get the FCP ones…and export a DNxHD or ProRes master from your timeline.
[Veronica Orlova] “The editor I mentioned is pro: she was second assistant editor on The Pianist, and first editor on a lot of features. But since she works with Final Cut and lives in France it’s hard for her to gives me accurate advises.”
Yeah…see? She might be totally brilliant and know the NLEs she uses well, and knows that they do not work with H.264 well at all…she is right. But I bet she doesn’t use Premiere Pro and know that it DOES work with H.264.
[Veronica Orlova] “Please let me know what settings I should use.”
Same that matches the footage you shot. DSLR and the same frame rate.
Shane
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Hi shane,
I’ve read a lot since our last discussion and I’ve read one comment from someone who seems knowledgeable (whatever that means in this field):
‘even a high-quality H.264 is still pretty compressed and pretty low-quality compared to ProRes’. And it brought me back to square one, asking myself if I shouldn’t convert all my files into ProRes ones before editing?
Does it make sense and if not why?
Again the idea is too keep as much quality possible and I have to say that when I had to color correct some DSLR files I was surprised how little room I had. Nothing hold and the picture become terrible very quickly if you apply to much correction. Do you think I could get more latitude with a ProRes format?
Thank again.
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