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  • AVCHD to Premiere to Apple ProRes 422 GET RID OF BLACK BARS

    Posted by Daniel Masciari on October 29, 2012 at 9:11 pm

    Hi,

    So we just shot to AVCHD and I would prefer to edit in FCP. I figured out that Adobe Premiere is great with AVCHD, but since I still would like to edit in FCP stubbornly, I want to transcode by importing the AVCHD footage to Premiere and exporting to Apple ProRes 422. This works, but I keep getting top and bottom bars that cut off information–which is very annoying because I can’t figure out how to export from Premiere to ProRes without these bars. Any suggestions?

    Key info: codec AVCHD, 1920×1080 24p. Using Adobe Premiere CS5.5

    Cheers,
    Daniel

    Jeff Pulera replied 8 years, 8 months ago 6 Members · 7 Replies
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  • Daniel Masciari

    October 29, 2012 at 9:16 pm

    Never mind! I figured it out–I needed to select square pixels. Silly, thanks anyways.

    Best

  • Gabriel Sanchez

    October 29, 2012 at 9:56 pm

    Why don´t you batch transcode directly from Adobe Media Encoder or Prelude? No need to use Premiere for such simple job…

    Regards

  • Daniel Masciari

    October 30, 2012 at 4:51 am

    Thank you!

  • Walter Biscardi

    October 31, 2012 at 12:48 am

    This is also a perfect job for Prelude. Convert all your clips while you ingest.

    By the way editing ProRes in Premiere Pro is easy too. Especially if you use the FCP 7 keyboard shortcuts.

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  • Jose Guzman

    November 7, 2012 at 9:11 pm

    I’m having the same problem. I’m working on a film that has a few scenes that were started in Premiere and I want to move them into Final Cut so I can insert them into the master movie in Full Res.
    I selected square pixels as the Aspect in the Export window but the Output still displays the black bars

  • Rory Newman

    November 30, 2017 at 11:10 pm

    Hi,

    Could you help, please? We’ve been editing in FCP7 for almost a decade, and are half way through a project we’ve been working on for a few years. But as we’re getting a new mac, I wondered if you could give me some advice on any of the following you know the answer to:

    1. Can I play FCP project files in PP?
    2. Will my Prores 422 work?
    3. Is it true that you can edit AVCHD in PP?
    4. And that you will just uncompress it at the end when you export it?
    5. Would I be able to mix this mid project? i.e. use my Prores 422 stuff now and just add AVCHD clips into the same timeline. And then just get it all sorted out on export.
    6. Though as I’ll be starting a new edit from scratch, I could just bring in all my AVCHD stuff into the library, and go from there.
    7. If you do have to convert from AVCHD to a usable format for editing, what would you recommend?
    8. And how large are these files, if AVCHD is 8GB/hr and PR422 is about 50GB/hr?
    9. How much ram would you suggest? (As I say, we’ve been using 32-bit FCP7.) I’ll have a graphics card with 8gb Vram, but it’s all just simple 1080p AVCHD. No 3d. Almost no fx – just subtitles and the odd fade.

    I mean, if I get 32gb (or even 64gb) will this all be used? Would it just keep the whole film in the ram (assuming it wasn’t that long)? And would this be a noticeable benefit?

    (My internal drive is SSD, but have been using normal HDDs for the external drives with the video files on. But I will have a 1TB ssd as an external with any luck. That would be able to hold all my AVCHD files, but perhaps not all my stuff that’s been converted into PR422.)

    If you can help with any of these questions, I’d be so, so grateful.

    Many thanks.

  • Jeff Pulera

    December 1, 2017 at 2:53 pm

    Hi Rory,

    I work on PC, never used Mac, but here goes:

    1. Can I play FCP project files in PP?

    No – but if you export the FCP project as an EDL (Edit Decision List) you should be able to import that EDL into Premiere. That’s my understanding. Will not retain the effects, but basic layout of clips, cuts, etc. ought to be there. The Basics.

    2. Will my Prores 422 work?

    Yes.

    3. Is it true that you can edit AVCHD in PP?

    Absolutely. Best workflow is to copy ENTIRE contents of SD card to NEW folder on hard drive. All folders/files from SD must remain intact. Then in Premiere, import AVCHD clips using MEDIA BROWSER, not File > Import.

    4. And that you will just uncompress it at the end when you export it?

    Not sure what you mean. It is transparent to the user. Import clips and edit, then export to any format.

    5. Would I be able to mix this mid project? i.e. use my Prores 422 stuff now and just add AVCHD clips into the same timeline. And then just get it all sorted out on export.

    Yes, you can mix and match clips such as ProRes, AVCHD, HDV, etc. in same timeline, no worries.

    6. Though as I’ll be starting a new edit from scratch, I could just bring in all my AVCHD stuff into the library, and go from there.

    Yes, pay attention to #3 though.

    7. If you do have to convert from AVCHD to a usable format for editing, what would you recommend?

    No need to convert, but ProRes is great, or Avid DNxHD (.mxf).

    8. And how large are these files, if AVCHD is 8GB/hr and PR422 is about 50GB/hr?

    AVCHD is more like 13GB hour usually. ProRes data rates here – https://documentation.apple.com/en/finalcutpro/professionalformatsandworkflows/index.html#chapter=10%26section=4%26tasks=true

    9. How much ram would you suggest? (As I say, we’ve been using 32-bit FCP7.) I’ll have a graphics card with 8gb Vram, but it’s all just simple 1080p AVCHD. No 3d. Almost no fx – just subtitles and the odd fade.

    16GB is sufficient for HD editing, 32GB doesn’t hurt and helps with 4k sources.

    Thanks

    Jeff Pulera
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