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  • What is 1080/50p (or 1080/60p)?

    Posted by Adam Spencer on October 13, 2012 at 11:10 pm

    I’m looking at getting a camcorder that records in 1080/50p, but I simply cannot find a decent explanation of it.

    Why was this format introduced and what are the benefits? I can only deduce that the camera is recording at 50/60fps for the purpose of smooth motion. I’m guessing the motion is interpolated once you output a rendered file at 25fps, thus giving smoother pans than you otherwise would shooting in 24p. Or am I way off-base here?

    Also, does Premiere support this format natively now?

    thanks

    Taz Bari replied 13 years, 1 month ago 5 Members · 5 Replies
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  • Walter Soyka

    October 15, 2012 at 1:16 am

    [Adam Spencer] “I’m looking at getting a camcorder that records in 1080/50p, but I simply cannot find a decent explanation of it.”

    1080p/50 is 1920×1080 HD video with 50 full (progressive) frames per second. Before 1080p50, you had two choices: 1080p/25, with 25 progressive frames per second, or 1080i/25, with 25 interlaced frames (or 50 half-height fields) per second.

    1080i/25 essentially sacrifices spatial resolution (fewer vertical lines) for temporal resolution (more fields per second) when compared with 1080p/25. 1080p/50 gives you the best of both worlds: the entire spatial resolution of a full progressive frame and the increased temporal resolution of 25i video.

    To go back to 1080i/25 or 1080p/25 from a 1080p/50 source, you’ll have to give up either that added partial or temporal resolution.

    Walter Soyka
    Principal & Designer at Keen Live
    Motion Graphics, Widescreen Events, Presentation Design, and Consulting
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  • Rob White

    November 16, 2012 at 8:20 am

    Hi Walter,

    Do you have any recommended export setting for 1080/50p footage?

    I’ve used the Sony NEX-FS100 camera and captured on to an Atomos Ninja.

    I would like to output for Web (YouTube).

    Any help is appreciated.

    Thanks,
    Rob White

  • Walter Soyka

    November 16, 2012 at 3:01 pm

    [Rob White] “Do you have any recommended export setting for 1080/50p footage? … I would like to output for Web (YouTube).”

    Sorry, mate, I’m not too familiar with YouTube’s compression standards, and I don’t know if it actually even supports 1080/50p.

    You could try modifying Adobe Media Encoder’s “YouTube 1080p 25” preset; you’ll have to bump the level (located in the “Basic Video Settings” section directly underneath “Profile”) up to 4.2 (IIRC) to allow 1080/50p.

    Walter Soyka
    Principal & Designer at Keen Live
    Motion Graphics, Widescreen Events, Presentation Design, and Consulting
    RenderBreak Blog – What I’m thinking when my workstation’s thinking
    Creative Cow Forum Host: Live & Stage Events

  • George Kalogeris

    March 2, 2013 at 11:15 pm

    I thought I wouldn’t need to start another thread.

    recommended settings for exporting to file from CS6 ?
    I have 1080/50p footage from Sony NEX-EA50
    and I ‘d like to do some renderless cut-joins

  • Taz Bari

    April 20, 2013 at 12:40 pm

    Hi

    My question is that if you convert the 50p to 25 does it effect the speed of the shot. From my basic understanding when we change frame rates speed changes so i assume if i convert it to 25fps it will change the speed.

    Im working on a music video with lots of tracks and effects and all the footage is 50p and i am worried that once the video is done and i have to convert it to 25fps to put online or send to a channel that the speed will all change and the video will become out of sync. Sorry if this sounds stupid but im paranoid as this is the first music video i am making.

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