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A couple questions about Premiere
I’m liking the trial of CS6 for the most part. I’m running it on a maxed out i7 iMac with 16gigs, 6970m, and 3.4 ghz. Shouldn’t be much of a problem to play back a couple layers of video. So right now I’m playing with an XDCam EX sequence at 1080i and I have a couple questions. The XDCam has been rewrapped as QT (but is still XDCam, not ProRes) via FCP 7 log and transfer or the Sony software. I’m monitoring via Blackmagic Intensity Extreme with 9.5.1 drivers.
1- Do the audio meters always lag the video by about a second? I’m finding this whether I’m in GPU or software mode. (I hacked the txt file so the 6970m would GPU accelerate)
2- No way to turn off audio scrubbing via a keyboard shortcut?
3- I’m finding playback and performance to be acceptable, but if I double click a clip in the program window so I can scale and/or rotate it, it suddenly grinds to a halt and takes about 10 seconds to register every change. Sometimes longer. Sometimes it catches up and I see 5 changes occur all at once, after a 20 second standstill. This occurs in software or GPU mode.
4- Why does the “never stop playing” timeline (a phrase adobe used last night at ATL Cutters meeting) timeline always stop when I click on another spot on the timeline ruler? Seems it can do anything without stopping, except go to another spot on the timeline.
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Your delayed audio meters and “double click video to rescale” delays sound like it graphics card related. What card are you running? Do you have the latest drivers?
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Bret –
Agree that your audio meters and image resizing thing may be a hardware issue. Obviously certain cards are unsupported for a reason.
Audio scrubbing can be turned off in Preferences>Audio.
I suppose Adobe just thought that if you’re clicking elsewhere in the timeline you may want to stop. Agreed it might be cool to keep playing even then, but the “never stop playing” does stop when you reposition the playhead.
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I thought it might be graphics card related, as the 6970m isn’t technically supported. But it occurs just as bad in software only mode. And if it doesn’t work for basic functionality in software only mode, on the newest iMac there is full of RAM goodness, then what mac will it work on? I know, the two cards on Macbook Pros.
I’m starting to think it’s the BlackMagic drivers. OR, the fact that the xdcam is wrapped in QT. From what I understand from the Adobe guys, it kinda kills the performance of the Mercury engine when it has to go into QT support mode. I know that applies to ProRes, but didn’t know it would include native codec XDCam. I have had the same results with native 5D footage.
I think I’ll try grabbing some XDCam directly from the dupe of the card via the media browser and try playing with blackmagic turned off.
As for audio scrubbing not having a hot key: SERIOUSLY? Wow. What an oversight. That’s sort NLE 101 isn’t it?
And stopping the timeline so often, that’s the kind of thing that should be a preference. Not audio scrubbing. If I want to stop the timeline, I’ll press stop.
Anyway, looking promising if I can figure out the performance issues.
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[Bret Williams] “But it occurs just as bad in software only mode.”
Have you updated OS X Lion lately?
[Bret Williams] “it kinda kills the performance of the Mercury engine when it has to go into QT support mode.”
In general, avoid QT. It’s still 32bit and will forever be. It will slow performance. Stay native as much as possible.
[Bret Williams] “As for audio scrubbing not having a hot key: SERIOUSLY? Wow. What an oversight. That’s sort NLE 101 isn’t it?”
We have it as a keyboard shortcut now. You have to map it though. It’s called “Toggle Audio During Scrubbing.”
[Bret Williams] “And stopping the timeline so often, that’s the kind of thing that should be a preference. Not audio scrubbing. If I want to stop the timeline, I’ll press stop. “
Premiere Pro CS6 doesn’t stop playback for almost everything. Unfortunately, when skipping ahead in the Timeline, it will stop playback. Skipping ahead with no stop is a FCP behavior, for sure. Please make a feature request: https://www.adobe.com/go/wish
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Well, I definitely found the answer to #3, the grind to a halt issue. And I’m able to duplicate it in CS5 AND CS6. Both of which are installed. I removed any drivers for BlackMagic. I turned off any hacked GPU acceleration and deleted the mention of it in the text file.
I discovered that when I manipulate scale, crop, rotation, position manually in the effects panel that everything zipped around naturally. As good as an NLE should. So it had something to do with manipulation in the program window.
It was my Bamboo tablet. I don’t know why. Makes no sense. But if you use a Bamboo tablet pen in mouse mode (not mapped mode) and try to manipulate the image in the program window, it will grind the program to a halt. If you use the touch controls on the Bamboo, it’s fine. If you use the pen in mapped mode, it’s fine. But mapped mode is pretty useless for 2 monitors. This is the only app that has a problem with the pen. I use it in AE, Photoshop (obviously), FCP 7, FCP X, and have no problems.
But good to know what it is! Now I can give CS6 a proper test.
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Don’t double-click the clip. Just single-click to select it. In the “effects controls” tab you can manipulate “Video Effects”, “Audio Effects” and any filters you have applied to your single selected clip.
BTW if you want to apply an effect to many clips on the timeline, select the effect(s) in the “effects controls” window, copy it (them), select all the clips you want on the timeline and paste. The effect and its settings are applied to all selected clips. This works with Motion and other basic settings as well.
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Sorry if not clear. Trying to move, scale & rotate in the program window. Works perfectly fine with a mouse. Works fine sliding the controls in effects panel. BUT using the Wacom stylus does not. As you try to move the image around the Program window it just stops moving and starts to stick.
Nothing to do with filters or multiple clips.
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Kevin: I’m working in Premiere Pro CC. But the Toggle Audio During Scrubbing doesn’t work when I map it to my keyboard. The only way I can get it to go on and off is via the Preferences option. Thoughts? Thanks, Geoff
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