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A feature request I just made for CS 6.5 that I think could really speed things up
Now that the major issues in PPro CS5.5 are being tackled in 6 and we’re at the beginning of the development cycle again, I figured now would be a good time to start making requests for 6.5.
I just did one that I thought would be a tremendous time saver, and was curious what others thought of it.
I just submitted a request for what I call “cascading effect presets.” Basically it’s a new type of effect preset that would work like a CSS rule- when you apply the preset to multiple clips that you want to have the same look, and then make changes to the properties of the effects in the preset, the changes are reflected in every clip where the preset is applied. This way, if you have many clips that you want to have the same look or effects applied to them, and then you change your mind about the look you want them to have, you can make the change and move on without having to copy the effect and paste it to all of the other clips where it is applied. This could be especially helpful for large projects.
And, before anyone says anything- I know adjustment layers were added to tackle this same issue, and they will- but for many situations it will be very helpful. For something that cuts back and forth between different looks, or if there are several short clips that need the same look applied, or several areas spread throughout the project with the same look (especially if they in multiple sequences), I think this could really come in handy.
So… Who’s with me on this?
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I’m totally with you. I’ve been thinking about submitting a feature request that’s very, very similar. When I’m doing minor color correction in the timeline (with Fast Color Corrector or something similar), it would be great to have the option to apply that filter to all the clips from the same source in that timeline. So if I brighten a shot or increase saturation in an interview shot, dropping the filter on the first clip would automatically apply it to all in the cut. Or give users the option to apply filters in the source window, so that they get ‘filtered’ down the shots in the timeline. They could include a toggle in the filter to apply globally on/off so you could “lock” or “unlock” an effect to other clips in the edit.
Totally agree.
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If you want Adobe to be aware of your request, please make it here.
https://www.adobe.com/cfusion/mmform/index.cfm?name=wishform
Tom Daigon
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I like the idea, but how about somethinglike this:
Paste Instance or Paste Channel Linked?
So you set up a effect(s) they way you want on a clip
Copy itSelect your destination clips
and choose paste instance/paste linked
the filter stack is added to the destination clip, but all the labels for the effects and channels for those effects are italicized when viewed on the destination clip.
this let’s you know that the channel values are being driven by the parent/master effect
so if you make a change to the master, all clips using the the instance effects also receive the changes
then from the destination clips side
any filter can be “de-linked” so you can edit it independently OR
any individual channel within a filter can be delinked to be edited separately leaving the other linked channels still linked….(this is a feature I saw in Digital Fusion that I thought totally rocked)
I could take it further and say that the key frame area of these channels should (similar to a linked parameter in AE) show “path” to the master event so you sciptably offset it say “+20” or something like that…
this would kind of be the PPro equivalent to Pick whipping and expressions in AE.
What do you think of that?
Alex Udell
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Greg did say that he just made one and was just coming here to find out what others thought. So he sounds a step ahead. I don’t think ALSO reposting it here is a bad thing for two reasons…
A) We know that Adobe also frequents these forums and interacts, so they’ll also see it here (-you can’t present a good idea too many times).
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B) I think Greg is trying to drum up additional user support for the idea so that Adobe might see a lot of enthusiasm for it in the community and perhaps weight it differently than a single submission. (which is probably how most of their new features make it to the head of the line).While I love Adobe and the fact that they have a place to submit features, let’s be honest… there’s no protocols in place that tell us whether or not a feature request was read and understood, much less considered and implemented. I’m sure they get a blizzard of suggestions time and again and most of them are probably less than gold. How many good or even great requests occasionally fall through the cracks created by the bad ones? If Greg makes a great request through the proper channels (and one that many others like and agree would be a great addition to PPro), I think having those users actually weigh in on it publicly might actually improve it’s chances of getting implemented.
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Alex Udell So you set up a effect(s) they way you want on a clip Copy it Select your destination clips and choose paste instance/paste linked
I was mainly thinking of creating a preset from a clip or group of clips that could be used later, though the option to “paste as cascading preset” could be nice if you decide on the way to pasting a few clips somewhere that you want them to be linked to a cascading master.
I also thought there could be a panel where all of the cascading presets or effects that are actually being USED in your project are all shown in a list, so you can go there to make changes to the settings or copy them to other clips. This way you can always get to them easily without having to go searching for a clip that has the preset you need. This panel would be your project’s “style sheet”, so to speak.
Alex Udell the filter stack is added to the destination clip, but all the labels for the effects and channels for those effects are italicized when viewed on the destination clip.
this let’s you know that the channel values are being driven by the parent/master effect
I was thinking along those same lines. I thought it would be good if in the effect controls, the settings for the cascading preset had a different color background than standard effects.
Cliff Stephenson They could include a toggle in the filter to apply globally on/off so you could “lock” or “unlock” an effect to other clips in the edit.
I figured the preset and each effect in it could have a button next to it to toggle linking to the master settings on or off. I used the chain icon from Photoshop as an example.
Here’s a mock-up I threw together.
Tom Daigon If you want Adobe to be aware of your request, please make it here.
https://www.adobe.com/cfusion/mmform/index.cfm?name=wishform
I did. Just before I posted about it here.
Cliff Stephenson I think Greg is trying to drum up additional user support for the idea so that Adobe might see a lot of enthusiasm for it in the community and perhaps weight it differently than a single submission. (which is probably how most of their new features make it to the head of the line).
Exactly.
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“THAT’S our fail-safe point. Up until here, we still have enough track to stop the locomotive before it plunges into the ravine… But after this windmill it’s the future or bust.” -
Hey Cliff and Greg…
I re-read my post…I didn’t intend nor even upon a re-read feel like I was attacking Greg’s idea…
I’m glad he submitted the request….I’m glad he put it up here for discussion….
I was only contributing an idea that was similar in result to what he suggested…..
From what I know, It’s through the synthesis of discussion….with enough cross user support of any idea like this and enough people actually voting for the same idea through feature requests that you end up with something that gets raised up the flag pole for consideration….if we can build consensus in forums like this…and then all submit together…I think we have a better chance of seeing implementation of a consistent improvement we can agree on….as opposed to having Adobe wade thru a lot of overlapping related, but inconsistent suggestions and then engineering a blended result (track patching anyone? 🙂 )
So I’m sorry if my tone was in any way dismissive….again not intended….just joining in the dialogue.
Alex Udell
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Hey Alex,
My response actually wasn’t directed at you. But, unfortunately, hitting reply just puts the actual reply at the very bottom and I wasn’t smart enough to quote the text from Tom I was actually responding to.Sorry for the confusion.
Cliff
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