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Synching Clips From 2 Cams
Hello Folks,
FCPX’s synching is not working for me so I upgraded my Premiere Pro 5.0 to 5.5. Still not having any joy. The only tutorial I can find uses manual synching which I could do in any decent editor. Not a feature.
I was under the impression that 5.5 had an automagic sync feature like X. I select multiple clips in the project browser and synchronize is greyed out even if one is audio only and the rest are video+audio. I tried it on the timeline with no success. BTW, I did not use a clapper as the handheld was off and on and only shot a few minutes at a time. Would prefer to sync the handheld clips to the 1:11 rear cam clip that was on a tripod. I have separate audio of the correct length if that is needed.
Somebody want to set me straight ‘for I eats me Glock. Manually syncing the large number of clips from my shoulder mount to the cam that was locked down is what I dearly want to avoid. Don’t much care for tedium.
Thanks Much,
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You can synch according to In point, Out point, timecode, or numbered markers. See this page for details.
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Todd Kopriva, Adobe Systems Incorporated
Technical Support for professional video software
After Effects Help & Support
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[Todd Kopriva] “You can synch according to In point, Out point, timecode, or numbered markers. See this page for details.”
Saw that. Kinda weak. Does not say it will sync based on the audio or what.
As you may realize from my post, there is no common timecode. I expect better/more from Adobe. I want it to sync based on the audio.
Thanks,
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This is what I have been using in FCP for Multicam TV shows and now its available for PPro too.
Matches based on waveform.
https://www.singularsoftware.com/pluraleyesctrl.html#premiere
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Jon Barrie
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[Jon Barrie] “This is what I have been using in FCP for Multicam TV shows and now its available for PPro too.
Matches based on waveform.
https://www.singularsoftware.com/pluraleyesctrl.html#premiere“
Yep, Been avoiding that, thought it cost more. I tried the standalone version and it did not work for my clips. However, this morning I discovered the clips from the shoulder cam have 4 channels of audio on them. Someone has reset the Matrix! I have made a mono version of one of the clips and am going to try that.
I thought 5.5 added the sync by waveform capability. X has it but it is not working on these clips. Again, it may be the 4 channels. It should ignore 3 & 4 but may not.
Thanks JB,
Robert
BTW, the merge clips just mixes them together, it does not sync. The Clip menu has a Synchronize option but it is always grey. -
> BTW, the merge clips just mixes them together, it does not sync. The Clip menu has a Synchronize option but it is always grey.
If you merge clips in the Project panel, you get an option of how to synch the clips beforehand. If you merge clips in the Timeline panel, you don’t.
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After Effects Help & Support
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[Robert Ober] “Saw that. Kinda weak. Does not say it will sync based on the audio or what.”
Kinda weak? This is what every NLE other than FCP X offers. And FCP X isn’t exactly popular with a whole lot of people, despite the sync by waveforms feature.
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[John Pale] ”
Kinda weak? This is what every NLE other than FCP X offers. And FCP X isn’t exactly popular with a whole lot of people, despite the sync by waveforms feature.”You missed my point. The weak part is the docs. They do not have screen prints and leave out details.
As for FCP X, yep they botched the launch. Last week they started talking.
Y’all be cool,
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[Todd Kopriva] “If you merge clips in the Project panel, you get an option of how to synch the clips beforehand. If you merge clips in the Timeline panel, you don’t.”
But again synchronize stays grey and merge give no indication of what it bases the merge on such as timecode or waveform. It does not sync, just creates a combined clip based on select parameters.
JB, I downloaded the PluralEyes Premiere and it works. It missed several clips but by far got the majority. What a timesaver.
Thanks Folks,
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Robert,
I handle the writing duties for Premiere Pro Help and hope I can address your problem in the Merge Clips section.I can add more screenshots for this feature in upcoming versions (none can be added until then). I can also place a note that synching is only down with in/out points, clip start/end and timecode and not based on audio waveforms.
One question: what would you like me to show in the screenshots?
Thanks.
Kevin Monahan
Sr. Content and Community Lead
Adobe After Effects
Adobe Premiere Pro
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[Kevin Monahan] ” can add more screenshots for this feature in upcoming versions (none can be added until then). I can also place a note that synching is only down with in/out points, clip start/end and timecode and not based on audio waveforms.”
I’m sure folks would appreciate that.
[Kevin Monahan] “One question: what would you like me to show in the screenshots?”
Many places I suppose. As an example there is a section about the Multi-Camera Monitor. Let’s suppose I am reading through the Help as if it were a manual. I may not be ready to use that feature but it would be nice to see what it looks like without having to switch to Premiere and open it. Assume we are are lazy. In my case it would be true:-)
Do you folks have a feature suggestion form? The audio waveform sync thing is a big timesaver! Particularly for those of us who sometimes shoot with multiple cams but don’t do this fulltime. Maybe you folks should buy the PluralEyes company? As you may have seen, I had to resort to PluralEyes to do my sync as there is no common timecode between the two cams and using a clapper was not possible as I started and stopped the shoulder cam during a church service. I could have done it manually but that is VERY timeconsuming and a PITA.
I really appreciate hearing from you.
Have a good whatever,
Robert
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