• Adobe Premiere Pro

  CS4 and Final Cut COLOR VS. RED

  Posted by Alex Lab on March 13, 2011 at 7:33 am

  Hi,

  I’m working with a guy who’s editing a project in Premiere CS4 (PC) and I’m doin the coloring with Apple Color (MAC)

  I was wondering, by considering that we’re working with offline quicktime files that I made with REDrushes (quarter quality, H.264), is it possible to reconnect the project with Final Cut to get back the 4k quality after coloring with Apple Color? Is there a way?

  Or I really have to pass by REDcine?

  Ramil Pasibe replied 15 years, 2 months ago 3 Members · 3 Replies
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  Tim Kolb

  March 13, 2011 at 8:54 pm

  I’m trying to track this…

  So…what was the reason the Premiere Pro CS4 editor couldn’t simply use the RED RAW footage in the first place? That would have saved a step or two…

  Did you use REDCine to do any primary corrections before making the H264 offline files?

  Since doing color correction on the RAW files is probably the key advantage to shooting motion RAW in the first place, why wouldn’t you reconnect the 4K RED files in FCP before going into Color?

  TimK,
  Director, Consultant
  Kolb Productions,
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  Alex Lab

  March 13, 2011 at 10:35 pm

  Hi,

  thank you for your time!

  ‘Cause apparently, final cut cannot import .r3d. I have to pass by log and transfer and then i can do the editing. But the other guy works in Premiere and he did edit with the .r3d. So when he sends me his XML, in final cut, I have r3d offline and impossible to reconnect cause final cut doesn’t import .r3d.

  I did some h264 with REDrushes.

  Is there a possible way to import his Premiere edit straight to Apple Color, do the coloring, and output the whole thing in 4k? Does Apple Color is supposed to understand .r3d ?
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  Ramil Pasibe

  March 14, 2011 at 5:57 pm

  Hi Alex,

  I’m not in front of my workstation right now so I’ll try to help you as much as I can (from memory)…

  1. No there is no way to import his premiere edit straight to color.

  2. what you did was the right route – you just need to transcode the R3D into a quicktime container (instead of the H264 files) that maintains the RAW depth of the file. This are the files you are going to use for online in Color.- you do this with the plugin from Red website -I think this is Log and Transfer plugin – then when you install it – open log and transfer in FCP, then tweak the settings for RED MEDIA( I think) then choose Import as Native.

  – however, this would only import it to a maximum of 2K or a bit higher but not 4K since FCP is limited in terms of screen resolution. The Compression would be in REDCODE.

  – Just change the sequence setting compression to PRORES 4444. Then you could send that sequence via normal SEND to COLOR command.

  Inside Color, I think in the settings tab – there should be a dedicated RED TAB with numerous settings for you to tweak you RAW footages.

  There you have it. Again it won’t be 4K, you are actually limited by the FCP Studio Apps, I think it is just 2K or a bit higher.

  regards,

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