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a silly question
Hello, my query might seems silly to lot of people but i need to know, so please be patience.
Is it mandatory to have a capture card or color card while editing & color grading on premiere pro with professional plugins like red giant, mac book pro doesn’t have any card in it (except very fine graphics card) but can produce good result. Im working on HD footage so issue of capturing tape. so what if i don’t don’t use a capture card but use the proper codec ie; h.264 or p2 as source video required on desktop pc? pls post your verdict.Thanks in advance
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No, lots of video material is a straight data transfer so no video capture card is needed.
You may want to keep your laptop monitor calibrated to do any coarse color correction on it, but if it’s material bound for broadcast or some other specific scenario (film recorder or whatever…), I would still try to leave the really specific adjustments for a system that shows you your images on a screen that is consistent with your destination (a broadcast video monitor on a desktop system…with an I/O card most likely, or even a projection screen if that’s appropriate.
I’d also be particularly aware of your surroundings. If you do this type of work in airports and hotel rooms, you’ll find your perception will vary widely from day to day…making any color correction very inconsistent.
TimK,
Director, Consultant
Kolb Productions, -
Thanks for the reply. you have picked a very important issue actually, i haven’t thought that way. You see im making a movie on HDSLR which will be broadcast on television. In that case what would you suggest for the setup. I agree with the broadcast monitor, what kind of I/O card you suggest. Im wondering what other low budget filmmakers do with their movies while doing the post by themselves. If it gets expensive then no good news for me.
Please post your verdict.
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Expensive is relative…
I’ve got 20+ years in the industry and I think the capability available to an average individual is unbelievably inexpensive, and continuing to get moreso every year.
Your options are pretty limited with a laptop. I know that AJA’s I/O HD and I/O Express will work with a Mac laptop. I believe Matrox has some products for a laptop, but I’m not as knowledgeable about their product line. Black Magic Design has some I/O options as well…
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TimK,
Director, Consultant
Kolb Productions, -
Then what about desktop pcs? if those can give me flexible option within a fare price i might change my decision. Please suggest. Thanks for your reply once again.
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Areful Eeslam -
I am really caught between 22. What are chances though for expected result without the capture card, i mean with your experience can u suspect whether the output result going to inadmissible for broadcast? It might be… acceptable. Anymore suggestions???
Thanks for the reply.
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Well…yes, “anything” could be fine…
I don’t know you…I don’t know if you’re the most experienced DSLR shooter within 100 kilometers or whether you’ve had the camera for a week.
I don’t know what laptop you have…or what display is on it, or what board is driving it…
I have no idea whether you’ve been a colorist for 25 years and have an intuitive genius about you or whether you’ll be posting here again in 3 days asking how the color wheels work in the 3 way color corrector.
I also have no idea what content you’re shooting…TIG welding takes some knowhow to get a picture that won’t simply be an exposure nightmare right out of the blocks…a bulldog wearing a tutu falling into a swimming pool while chasing a butterfly will run on some American TV shows no matter how awful it is…
I also don’t know what television station or network you’ll be submitting to, or what their standards are…
You are creating a television show with a DSLR and a laptop…neither being natively calibrated for that use, whether it’s POSSIBLE to get by without observing any industry standard image handling practices or not simply depends on too many things to give you any useful answer I’m afraid.
TimK,
Director, Consultant
Kolb Productions, -
Thanks for asking. See im not the most experienced DSLR shooter, but i have been shooting on film for 20 years & i have been using 5D & 7D for a year, i have used cinealta & Pansonic P2. So i can assure you the footage will be fine also i have good DOP working beside me.
Same goes for post; since i’ve been editing & grading in film for many years & i have good sense of how it works. i will be using magic bullet colorista & looks for this which i work quite well. So im not concerned about getting good footage & edit-grade. I am concerned about the output result as i will be working with my own setup this time (since it’s a low budget feature i cant effort professional post production facility, im spending most funds to production).
I have a macbookpro 4.1 (2.5 GHz (T9400) Intel Core 2 Duo), 4gb DDR3 ram with Nvidia Geforce 8600M GT graphics card in it. I also have opportunity to work on a Intel Xeon quad core series desktop pc, for that im asking what can i do to ensure the footage im editing & grading will not give a false result (LED display in that case). Now if you kindly suggest me what more i can do to achieve accurate result of my work, should i get a broadcast monitor for post.
I live in Bangladesh & our television network uses DVB for broadcast.
I really appreciate your suggestion in this matter.
Thanks once again
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Areful Eeslam -
[Areful Eeslam] “Now if you kindly suggest me what more i can do to achieve accurate result of my work, should i get a broadcast monitor for post.”
Well…I think I did suggest an outboard box that would feed a broadcast monitor… I’m not sure what you’re looking for here. “Should” you get a broadcast monitor for post? I think I answered that…ideally, yes. What I’m hearing back is that is improbable so you’re asking me to assess how well the job can be done with a laptop monitor…answer: not as well as a broadcast monitor.
Again, is it possible that you’ll end up with a serviceable product if you color correct on a (hopefully calibrated at least) laptop monitor? Sure it’s possible. Make some tests and determine how what you’re seeing plays out to a broadcast system later, and do your best to take that into account during the grade.
What I would say is that you may not be overly pleased with the capabilities of either CPU you mention to playback DSLR footage. It’s highly compressed and very complex to decode. Big CPUs with as many cores as possible will be very beneficial.
TimK,
Director, Consultant
Kolb Productions, -
Thanks for the suggestion.
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