-
[CS4] No vidoe in source/program monitor only audio
I see this problem has come up here before, in at least one thread in 2008, but there was no resolution given.. Partly because posters were not giving much information with their question
I’m running Premier from CS4 Production Premium bundle. I’ve run it in the past on this same machine (not a lot) and did not have this problem. Its an Intel P4 3.2ghz running P4C800-de mobo with 3GB ram
The capture was done on a different machine since the firewire ports and usb are failing on the one with CS4 installed. The capture machine is a near twin, differing only in the DVStorm card and various software. (Including Premier 2.0 which DOES NOT have any problem with these clips)
It was captured on a Canopus DVStorm2 card using Scenalyzer. At first I thought that was the problem, thinking the other machine lacked a canopus codec. So Installed Canopus Edius5 demo which installs several canopus codecs. (this will be listed at the end).
When that didn’t help, I converted just 1 clip with a conversion tool that does that conversion in either directions.
Converted to MS type 2 avi. But STILL the problem did not go away.
I’m out of ideas here and apparently some of the old pros on the Adobe Premier forum are scratching there heads too. I posted there as well but haven’t got a resolution yet.
I’ve also tried an avi NOT from the capture that gspot reports to be avi type 2, as does DVMP. This clip is apparently just part of a windows install that I just found on the machine. It also fails to display video inside Premier CS4 so that should rule out twice over, any complication from canopus.
Gspot:
– File Length Correct
– DV Type 2 AVI
– AVI v1.0
– DV Audio/Video: 188 MB (94.91%)
– AVI Copy of DV Audio: 10.0 MB (5.07%)
– AVI Overhead: 44.1 KB (0.02%)And from the video panel:
Codec: dvsd Name: DVC/DV VideoA tool called Sherlock2 reports the following codecs on the machine, but first it also shows some kind of problem with 3.
MainConcept[Adobe2]H.264/AVC/Decoder
MainConcept[Adobe2]H.264/AVC/Video Encoder
MainConcept[Adobe2]MPEG Video EncoderOn each the tool reports: “The driver for this codec was not found
This probably means the codec was not uninstalled properly”(There have been lots of audio video tools installed/uninstalled on this machine over the years)
Sherlock finds these:
AVI Decompressor
AVI Draw
Canopus DV
Canopus DV Decoder
Canopus HQ
Canopus HQ Decoder
Canopus HQ Encoder
Canopus Lossless
Canopus Lossless Decoder
Canopus MPEG2-Intra Decoder
CineForm HD Codec V1.2
Cinepak Codec by Radius
DV Splitter
DV Video Decoder
DV Video Encoder
DVCPRO HD Decoder
DVCPRO50 Decoder
Indeor video 4.4 Decompression Filter
Indeor video 5.10
Indeor video 5.10 Compression Filter
Indeor video 5.10 Decompression Filter
Intel 4:2:0 Video V2.50
Intel Indeo(R) Video R3.2
Intel Indeor Video 4.5
Intel IYUV codec
Microsoft H.261 Video Codec
Microsoft H.263 Video Codec
Microsoft MPEG-4 Video Decompressor
Microsoft RLE
Microsoft Screen Video Decompressor
Microsoft Video 1
Microsoft Windows Media Video 9
MJPEG Compressor
MJPEG Decompressor
MPEG Video Decoder
Mpeg4 Decoder DMO
Mpeg43 Decoder DMO
Mpeg4s Decoder DMO
MSScreen 9 encoder DMO
Nero DVD Decoder -
10 Replies
-
Canopus codecs wouldn’t work in CS4, you have to load drivers for Ppro to use Canopus codecs, Canopus hasn’t had drivers for Adobe products since Ppro 1.5, Having Canopus/GrassValley codecs on the same machine as Ppro CS4 should not be a problem, I have CS4 and Edius 5.12 and associated hardware on the same machine, and haven’t noted any problems to date
If you use scenalyzer to capture, use a OHCI firewire port and capture to the listed “Premiere/vegas type 2 DV.avi”, I use this flow to capture DV on a older computer(also Storm2) to external drives to use on the other machine with CS4 and not tie it up with capture chores. -
Brian wrote:
> Canopus codecs wouldn’t work in CS4, you have to load drivers for Ppro to use Canopus codecs, Canopus hasn’t had drivers for Adobe products since Ppro 1.5, Having Canopus/GrassValley codecs on the same machine as Ppro CS4 should not be a problem, I have CS4 and Edius 5.12 and associated hardware on the same machine, and haven’t noted any problems to date
> If you use scenalyzer to capture, use a OHCI firewire port and capture to the listed “Premiere/vegas type 2 DV.avi”, I use this flow to capture DV on a older computer(also Storm2) to external drives to use on the other machine with CS4 and not tie it up with capture chores.I’m not following you completely. First off, do you mean that you think the problem is caused by the video clips? Remember, I tested by importing a video clip found on a windows install that was not captured by me.
Then it sounds like you are saying I could load some special Ppro drivers to use canopus codecs. How can I tell for sure what codec is used on these clips? Gspot just reports type2 avi.
And finally are you suggesting I have to recapture the clips using an OHCI port and special settings in scenalyzer?
Ok, but what about the fact that a video whos info was posted in OP, will not show video in CS4 either. I doubt it was compresed with canopus codec. It appears to be something from a windows install.
What about the lack of video display… what would cause that?
I also mentioned that I have used this very machine with cs4 premier before (although a while back) and it worked fine. -
[Harry Putnam] “Then it sounds like you are saying I could load some special Ppro drivers to use canopus codecs.”
I think this is self explanatory “Canopus hasn’t had drivers for Adobe products since Ppro 1.5” The only exception to this is for AFX or PS if you have newer GrassValley hardware.
[Harry Putnam] “And finally are you suggesting I have to recapture the clips using an OHCI port and special settings in scenalyzer”
The reason for this is to have a clean file for CS4 that is in the proper format, not one that is converted or an unknown leftover, this gives you a test base to establish whether or not you have other problems in your system
-
[Harry Putnam] “Then it sounds like you are saying I could load some special Ppro drivers to use canopus codecs.”
[Brian] “I think this is self explanatory “Canopus hasn’t had drivers for Adobe products since Ppro 1.5″ The only exception to this is for AFX or PS if you have newer GrassValley hardware. ”
Ahh, well it wasn’t but apparently I somehow turned it inside out and backward… now I get it… Its been so long since I used the capture card. I guess I may have never tried stuff captured with that dvstorm2 in cs4 before now.
[Harry Putnam] “And finally are you suggesting I have to recapture the clips using an OHCI port and special settings in scenalyzer”
[Brian ] “The reason for this is to have a clean file for CS4 that is in the proper format, not one that is converted or an unknown leftover, this gives you a test base to establish whether or not you have other problems in your system”
So is there no chance of using the clips, possibly with some sort of conversion, in CS4?
Seems like there might be easier ways to procure a file with the right properties than spend an hour or two recapturing, especially since the rewinder I used snagged the tape when I rewound it. I was able to get it straightened out and properly wound with a screwdriver but it got pretty scrunched up for a couple of inches… I’d as soon leave it alone unless I really have to use it.
I could generate a small avi in AE to test with. Can you tell me the exact settings that would create a really good test clip? I’m not very knowledgeable about all this as I’m sure you’ve noticed, I’d trust your parameters much better than my guesswork.
I have AE CS4, so if you are famiiiar with it, maybe you could tell me what settings to render with?
I also have AE 7 (now a bit long in the tooth in case you know that one)
The reason I ask is that I did create one that says (In the renderqueue information):
Format: Video for windows movie
Output Info: Microsoft DV
[…]
Final Size: 720×480
(no audio)Using that clip, I conducted two tests.
1) Import the clip, double click it in the project panel, it pops into the source monitor as expected and is visable. However when I drag it to the timeline and hit spc… I see no video in the program monitorStop Pr and restart it
2) Import the clip, double click into source monitor, this time the source monitor shows no video. Ditto for program monitor.
I can also add that I started the process manager and watched the resource monitor during the time Pr should have been playing video and it shows between 75 and 80 percent usage after a few seconds and for the whole time playback continues. I don’t know if that is normal or not.
-
I can not capture movies HDV (no problem in DV ), With CS4 through port 1394 on win xp Pro. Use as a reader SonyHVR- M15E. I also tried to attack the camera Canon XL -h1, No audio only, The remote controls the recorder function to capture video but the picture remains black. Project is designed to mount HDV. Any suggestions. Thanks.
-
[gianni squitieri] on Nov 13, 2009 at 4:05:14 am
“I can not capture movies HDV (no problem in DV ) . . .”
Gianni, please start a different thread with your question. Your topic is too different to be in this thread.
-
[Harry Putnam] “Seems like there might be easier ways to procure a file with the right properties than spend an hour or two recapturing,”
I wasn’t suggesting that you recapture the whole bloody shooting match, just a small file of the proper parameters for test purposes.
I assume that AFX is on the same machine that you are having problems with, there could be damaged codecs or other pertinate files that could possibly be corrupted so anything generated on that machine could be suspect.
-
OK, I’m not sure why I’m not getting anywhere with this.
Do you actually have an idea as to why I see no video?
I’ve noticed at least 3 other fairly recent posts here with this same question but no answers… not even any responses.[Brian] “I assume that AFX is on the same machine that you are having problems with, there could be damaged codecs or other pertinate files that could possibly be corrupted so anything generated on that machine could be suspect.”
Ok, yes it was the same machine… however I do have AFX on a different machine… can you cite the exact export parameters that would satisfy for a good test of CS4 premiere.
The AFX on a different machine is version 7.. a bit old. Do you think it would suffice if I look for MS DV as output and choose that?
Render out a clip, transfer it to the problem machine, or even just load it across the network into PrpCS4 and see what I get.
-
PS – And Brian, I’m sorry if it seems like I’m being a wooden headed idiot… certainly not my intent… and I hate to ask for even more patience from you, as you have been very patient so far.
I really need to get this resolved since the machine in question is one of 2 in use for graphics/video/photo work/and imaging of all kinds.
-
I have a little more to add here:
I managed to get CS4 Production Premium installed on a different machine and I see immediate problems.Open Premiere and attempt to use the Edit menu.. (to set some prefs) but instead of opening the edit menu, the app crashes.
I made several attempts.
Reply to this Discussion! Login or Sign Up