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GTX285 ▄ Quadro FX/CX ▄ Matrox RT.X2 – Which is better?!
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I’m using Adobe Premiere pro & After effects CS4 with a lot of plugins (Redgiant, Trapcode, Boris CC etc)
I work mainly with SD. I don’t use 3d apps such as maya and 3ds max.Thing is – the work process is very slow specially using Plugins etc, – so I thought of buying a card that will boost the performance using PPRO effects and After effects work environment.
I heard that QUADRO FX4800\CX can can help with the workflow and with OPENGL support and using CUDA technology
The bad news it cost between 1600$-2000$ which is crazy!
They brag that they can Export H.264 clips in supr fast times… Yeepee – I dont use this codec for now. I need fast response in the editing\composting process!and there is the Matrox rt.x2 which I don’t know if it supports all of this?
and if it accelerates the work with plugins and open GL and other effects!So I guess my question is which card is better for me?
who is better for the needs listed above?I can buy GTX 285 with better specs from the Quadros and it will cost only 320$-400$ (which is a fraction of the price for quadros). hell I can make Sli and it still be A LOT cheaper.
but I heard that you pay the ridiculous price for quadro FX 4800\CX because of the drivers (and the support – I dont need it).
and that they cut the performance of the gaming high end cards for use in pro apps.
Also the only diffrence between CX and FX4800 is that CX comes with H264 encoder – I don’t need this option – is there anything else?So my question is what to do? which card to buy?
Quadro? Matrox? or a hole new i7 system with GTX285 (maybe SLI) GPU?who will be faster?
please reply soon! my girlfriend is now in the states and coming back soon to my country – so I wanna buy as much as I can!
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The Matrox card accelerates the effects that come with the Matrox card inside PPro and gives you video in/out ports…
The other two cards are of course, Open GL cards.
The GTX series are gamer cards and the Quadro series are the pro cards. The Quadro cards are configured more for pro use…DisplayPort for utilizing 10 bit color and newer Open GL versions are standard on Quadro cards…not to mention that many plugins (Magic Bullet comes to mind) are real-time preview on my Quadro cards…
Open GL is most significant for After Effects Previews and for Photoshop as of CS4. PPro has a few effects that utilize Open GL. While using those effects illustrate how powerful Open GL is…Ppro benefits most from a beefy display card in just making the UI very responsive.
The only difference between the 4800 and the CX was the inclusion of the encoder, as you pointed out.
TimK,
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WOW!
Thank yo so much for that reply!(Magic Bullet comes to mind) are real-time preview on my Quadro cards…
I want to cry! I use them a lot but I find it hard to tweak and the render takes ages (specialy the look suites)!!!
So according to what you say OPENGL plugins like Red Giant will work real time on PPRO and AFTER effects?! amazing! 😀
Will the render be faster? or will it just boost up the preview workflow and the compositing process only?Now let me ask this, GTX285 has the same if not better specs than Quadros 4800\CX –
will GTX285 also give this great results when using OPENGL?
Is it all just a matter of Drivers?!
IF GTX285 will give significant poor results in comparison to the Quadros than It comes down to Quadro CX vs FX 4800about the DISPLAYPORT I have two DVI mons:
20″ Dell 2007FP & 24″ Dell 2407WFP
I’ll be using a converter to DVI I guess – is Displayport better than DVI?The only difference between the 4800 and the CX was the inclusion of the encoder, as you pointed out.
the CX costs a few hundred $ more.. and I dont use HD yet – nor h264 Codec…
Also I read that the RapiHD codec is very limited to presets…So I don’t need this feature.
Question is, though –
is this the only thing? maybe Adobe will lunch CS5 that will work better with CX? or its all the same because of the OpenGL issue abbilities which are the same in both cards – correct me if I’m wrong.٩(̾●̮̮̃̾•̃̾)۶
ADOBE MASTER COLLECTION CS4
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RAM: 8GB (Corsair 800Mhz)
CPU: Intel Quad Core 2.4Ghz (Q6600)
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Please let me know if you come up with a solution between these cards.
I would like to buy CS5 Production because of its use of gpu acceleration. However it is only compatible with the GTX 285, and the FX Series (3800,4800,5800). I want to know if I buy CS5 what my graphics solution should be. Whether I should shell out the money for a 3800 or 4800 or the 285 will work just fine. Or if the 285 will work better in SLI than the 3800 or 4800. The 5800 is out of the question for me, but 2 x GTX285 is still cheaper than the FX3800.
I have a Core i7 930, 12gb DDR3 ram, and an ATI 5770 right now. It’s a shame the my brand new 5770 isn’t compatible with the gpu acceleration in CS5 but I think I can still use it for display purposes and just use the nvidia for processing.
Let me know. Thanks.
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I bought the GTX285.
I’m currently running a hackintosh on this rig.
Using the CS4 Master col.I will check the CS5 in some time – and will report back.
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New Rig (Leopard 10.5.7):
Final Cut Studio 3
CPU: Core i7 920
RAM: 12gig
GPU: GTX 285 2GB OC
HDD: 6 X 1 TB HDDs: 4 HDDs in RAID-5 and 2 HDDs for System.
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OLD RIG (Win Vista Ultimate 64bit):
ADOBE MASTER COLLECTION CS4
RAM: 8GB (Corsair 800Mhz)
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Running a Quadro FX 3800. Just installed today, attempting to get faster preview times out of the machine. Did some general tests the other day in PS and AE both CS4.
Today I installed the card…and low and behold…With open GL set to ‘OFF’…my machine is faster rendering at full and half res a 3 layer HD comp of video. granted. We’re talking about RAM previews with my timer of thirty seconds on the timer @ Half RES I get 6 seconds of preview. With Open GL Set to ‘Always on’, I get: ta da: a best time of 5.7 seconds of preview. Result: faster with Open Gl turned off….Nice feeling after dropping a grand.
presently waiting for tech support to phone me back …perhaps they can explain what I have set wrong…or just drop some more marketing hyperbole upon me…I’m
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I have the GTX 285 — Im going to install CS5… on 64 bit operating sys to see the CUDA engine kicks in/..
Hope that it will be a big improvement on preview render times…
It would be great to hear about somebody that already uses CS5 & CUDA on GTX 285 card!
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New Rig (Leopard 10.5.7):
Final Cut Studio 3
CPU: Core i7 920
RAM: 12gig
GPU: GTX 285 2GB OC
HDD: 6 X 1 TB HDDs: 4 HDDs in RAID-5 and 2 HDDs for System.
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OLD RIG (Win Vista Ultimate 64bit):
ADOBE MASTER COLLECTION CS4
RAM: 8GB (Corsair 800Mhz)
CPU: Intel Quad Core 2.4Ghz (Q6600)
GPU: ATI x1950XT 256MB
MB: Asus P5K Deluxe WiFi-AP -
Hello,
Any luck with the GTX?
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