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  • Vertical Black Bars in Premiere Pro CS3!

    Posted by Matt Fox on October 2, 2008 at 12:59 am

    Hey Guys I recently had a new computer custom built specifically for video editing and upgraded from Premiere 6.0 to Premiere Pro CS3 v3.0. When I take a project that was edited using Premiere 6.0 and open it up in Premiere Pro CS3, I get the vertical black bars on the video clips in the timeline and also on the Program monitor when I play the timeline. BUT, when I click on any of those video clips listed on the import menu to the left, the clips play fine without the vertical black bars on the Source monitor! I didn’t have the vertical black bars when I captured the video clips from my VHS-C camcorder, and the vertical black bars didn’t show up on any of the video clips when I was editing in Premiere 6.0, and the vertical black bars never showed up when I exported to an AVI in Premiere 6.0 either! Now, if I import a video clip into the same project and onto the same timeline, that clip will not have the vertical black bars on either side and the bars won’t show up on that clip in the Program monitor either! Premiere Pro CS3 Why are they showing up now in Premiere Pro CS3 even when I export to an uncompressed Microsoft AVI at 4:3 NTSC?!!! How do I get rid of the vertical black bars? Thanks.

    SYSTEM:

    Windows Vista 64-Bit SP1
    2.6 Gigahertz Intel quad core processor (G33 Express Chipset)
    8Gb DDR dual channel 6400/800 RAM
    2 separate 500Gb SATA 3GB/sec 16Mb cache buffer Hard Drives
    1 TB SATA 3GB/sec 32MB cache buffer RAID Hard Drive (2 x 500Gb)
    Nvidia 8600 GT 512Mb Graphics Card
    Have all the latest updates for Premiere Pro CS3
    Have all the latest drivers for my hardware

    Ann Bens replied 17 years, 11 months ago 4 Members · 10 Replies
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  • Jon Barrie

    October 2, 2008 at 1:23 am

    Hi Matt,
    It sounds like you have started a CS3 project with 16:9 and using 4:3 footage. because of the difference in the width it’s not stretching to the widescreen width.
    Try this…
    Start a new project, using DV NTSC 48K. SO the project is 4:3 in shape.
    Import the project you have from Prem 6.
    Open the sequence the edit is in.
    Let me know if that has fixed your problem?

    – Jon Barrie 😉

    PS: Save this project as a different name… with _CS3 on the end or something so you don’t destroy the v6 project file – for saftey.

    How many editors does it take to change a light bulb?
    http://www.jonbarrie.net

  • Matt Fox

    October 2, 2008 at 3:19 am

    Hey Jon, thanks for the reply. I tried doing what you said. I opened a new project at NTSC 48k 4:3 and then imported my project from Premiere 6 but, the bars are still there. One thing I forgot to mention is that when I import a project from Premiere 6 into Premiere Pro CS3, I get something that says something like “This project is from a previous version of Premiere and must be converted. Project itself will not be changed.” And I have to press either continue or it will cancel. Then, after I press continue, another message appears that says something like “Premiere was unable to open the project in this mode and will now open in Desktop mode”. And then the project finally loads. I don’t see how this would cause the 4:3 vertical black bars to appear on video clips that are already in 4:3 aspect ratio though! Any thoughts on what to try next????

  • Matt Fox

    October 2, 2008 at 4:01 am

    Hey Jon, I found someone else that’s having the EXACT same problem as me. Here’s the link: https://www.animemusicvideos.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=1179148#1179148

    If you scroll down on that page you’ll see he uploaded a pic and that’s exactly how my program monitor is showing the black bars. It looks like someone told him how to fix it but, I can’t find 1.0 Pixel in my project settings. All I see is the DV NTSC 0.9 Any ideas?

  • Jon Barrie

    October 2, 2008 at 9:00 am

    Hi Matt,
    The source monitor shows you the media in its native shape. If it’s square pixel and the project is 0.9 that is a difference and that will cause the edge oddness. You need to know what the media is and match that in the project before you even begin. I’d say that the footage is square pixel which is 1. The Monitor is showing how the frame set to 0.9 looks with square pixel footage inside it. Because the difference is there the pillar boxing occurs. If PProCS3 is telling you the project must be Desktop then the project you were using was not a preset that PPro uses natively. It seems you opened the project file not imported it. Importing won’t set desktop or anything like that. The project is built, the import will force fit the project already open.
    I’m uploading a video about this sort of thing on youtube. It should uploaded in an hour or so (100MB).
    Check out my youtube site

    – Jon Barrie 😉

    PS: Basically the project settings need to match the media settings. v6 may have been working with 640×480 footage which is different to 720×480, the difference in size wide wise is leaving a gap on the edges as the media is in the center. Match the media to a project even if you need to make a desktop/custom one to match your media.

    How many editors does it take to change a light bulb?
    http://www.jonbarrie.net

  • Ann Bens

    October 2, 2008 at 2:20 pm

    Rightclick on clips in project window and interprete footage: conform to ntsc 0.9.

  • Mike Velte

    October 2, 2008 at 2:22 pm

    You will need to make a Custom Preset that matches the attributes of your source footage…640×480, 1.0Par, etc
    OR simply stretch the video on the timeline in your existing project, horizontally by 11.1% (1.0 divided by .9).

  • Jon Barrie

    October 2, 2008 at 10:56 pm

    Matt,
    My youtube video has posted, it talks about the kind of things to work with and check.

    https://au.youtube.com/watch?v=Ffv4wBsG34Y

    Cheers,

    Jon Barrie 😉

    How many editors does it take to change a light bulb?
    http://www.jonbarrie.net

  • Mike Velte

    October 3, 2008 at 10:59 am

    Very nice tut Jon. You dont sound like you are from Oklahoma though?

  • Jon Barrie

    October 3, 2008 at 11:48 am

    Did I say I was from Oklahoma? I’m from Australia, down-under.
    – Jon Barrie 😉

    How many editors does it take to change a light bulb?
    http://www.jonbarrie.net

  • Ann Bens

    October 3, 2008 at 3:06 pm

    Nice tut, but you are straying away from the original question.
    The original footage is from a VHS-c and i seriously doubt that’s widescreen. I think it’s more like square pixels imported wrong from Premiere 6.0.

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