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  • subclips again

    Posted by Gunnar Kordestani on September 12, 2007 at 1:30 am

    hy there,

    in my new company somebody captures all footage for the editors and delivers about 15 – 30 Minutes clips.
    I make many sublipcs out of it (lets say about 20) to organize footage.

    The whole system runs very instable, I cant replay some of the subclips and I cant set ‘reverse time’ out of a subclip (getting a freeze frame as a result). Also te timeine needs about ten seconds to replay from a certain position which makes editing almost impossibe.
    I was told not to use subclips because its the cause of all my troubles.

    Is that true? No way to use subclips propperly? Would it help to ‘make new Masterclips’ of each (with the ‘reverse time’ I already had a negative test)?
    Is there the same problem if you would have many Masterclips (I mean the footage captured in shorter clips)?

    I have 1 GB of RAM here. Maybe this is too less, to handle this?

    thx for listening …Gunnar

    Gunnar Kordestani replied 18 years, 8 months ago 4 Members · 7 Replies
  • 7 Replies
  • Steven L. gotz

    September 12, 2007 at 2:10 am

    The subclip delay was fixed in Premiere Pro CS3.

  • Gunnar Kordestani

    September 12, 2007 at 10:16 am

    Sorry I forgot, it’s 2.0 here.

    So you are saying in 2.0 it’s impossible to reliable work with subclips? that would be hard to accept.

  • Kevin Snyder

    September 12, 2007 at 3:15 pm

    Subclips do not work right in 2.0. The only way that subclips work is if the subclip is video only. The audio component of the subclips causes a large delay in playback. The only way around it is to make a new instance of the clip in the project window. Like Steven stated, the problems has been fixed in CS3.

    KMS

  • Gunnar Kordestani

    September 14, 2007 at 11:35 am

    hi Kevin,

    thanks for the explanation, now I know what I have to deal with. Honestly, I think they should cancel the ‘Pro’ then. No subclips – that’s a real pain in the ass.

    anyway thx for your help and see you next time in CS3 (maybe that’s the whole idea).

    Gunnar

  • Kevin Snyder

    September 14, 2007 at 6:08 pm

    No subclips in 2.0 was the reason that I returned it to Adobe. I am glad that they got it right in CS3.

    KMS

  • Mike Chapman

    September 15, 2007 at 4:52 pm

    We had one project that had perhaps 100 subclips from hour-long master clips. Things bogged down so much that it literally took several minutes to open the project, and perhaps 15 seconds for a subclip to play in the source window. When playing the timeline (containing subclips), audio dropped in and out at will.

    The real horror was using Project Manager to move the project from a firewire drive to our SAN. Instead of moving the master clip and linking (for instance) five subclips to it, Premiere would create five new master clips, THEN link the subs. As you can imagine, on a 100-subclip project, this took up a vast amount of space, even on a 15TB server. I’m told that this has been fixed in PP3, but unless I can get over my install issues, I’ll never know.

    I’ll repeat – of all the apps in this suite, the editor is the weakest, sickest part of the package. Adobe needs to steal some talented developers and testers from Avid or Apple, ’cause their editor is never going to catch on for “real world” projects.

  • Gunnar Kordestani

    September 17, 2007 at 12:15 pm

    maybe a strange idea but would a downgrade to 1.5 be an alternative (probably they didn’t have subs at all then)?

    gunnar

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