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Premiere 2.0 to AE and back again…and again
Hello
We are considering purchasing a new Adobe suite. After doing all of our research we are still left with this question.
We would have a rough cut in Premiere then open it in AE to add finishing touches. If we then had to make changes to the edit in Premiere, how can we get AE to recognize the changes or update so we don
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It does not work the other way. My suggestion is not to do effects until your final edit. Effects take a lot of work and probably should not be worked on until your cut is finished. Just my workflow that is.
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The fact that there is no dynamic update ability across the 2 apps makes this workflow useful only for final, signed off PPro edits. We ran into this on a recent project where we were on delivery and the client requested a change in the PPro edit. Painted into a corner we were.
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Could you guys flesh out the issue a little more? I’m really puzzled as to what the problem is… I don’t quite understand as to the how, what or why you would bring a Premiere project into After Effects. Also, if the dynamic link 2 way flow is the only issue holding you back, what other aps are you considering that do allow you to go back and forth?
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I use this workflow quite a bit…importing an entire PPro project into AE, then color correcting, compositing, and CG as necessary. I find that AE is faster and more powerful for this than PPro. Most people will however just create AE composites in certain sections of their PPro timeline to avoid the scenario you’re describing.
When finishing an entire piece in AE, I defiintely stress to my clients how important the “sign-off” is on that PPro “offline” and charge accordingly if changes need to be made after that is originally signed off on.
Assuming you’re not looking at wholesale changes, you could make a copy of the timeline in PPro, make your editorial changes, do a “save as” and then import that project into the same AE project…copy and paste your f/x to the changed areas of the new sequence and then just render out the changed areas to separate files…match them in back in PPro.
Not a perfect workflow, but it does have its advantages.
Expecting dynamic link to work in the other direction would definitely open up a lot more issues as to how the sequence and corresponding layers are altered.
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That’s exactly what I was thinking…just copying and pasting the f/x if we had to. We don’t do long form very often so it couldn’t take long to just copy and paste.
Just about every project I work on involves AE in some way or another. We use it a lot. We’ve even edited entire spots with it. I really would like a program that complements AE. I was just thinking that premiere would be a nice solution. I know I could probably use Automatic Duck with another edit system but it looks like PPro has come a long way.
Are you using Axio? I think we might go with Matrox if we decide on PPro.
Thanks for the input.
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Thats exactly what I was afraid of. We would just have to design a way to make the changes in the least amount of time. Maybe just section the project out to AE instead of an entire timeline?
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An therein lies the problem. Any changes to the PPRO edit throw a major wrench into the works once the AE work has begun. We ran into this on one of our recent projects and it is tough!
Telling clients “we’re locked” simply doesn’t work anymore, they insist on tinkering until delivery. Even more now than ever.
I don’t know what the answer is other than to “merge” PPRO and AE.
Another was would be to have a truly dynamic application link that can offer some way of dynamically updating the respective workspaces. Sounds hard to do.
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