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  • JVC HD100U and Adobe Premiere Pro 2.0 Capture issues

    Posted by Deleted User on December 14, 2006 at 12:59 am

    Hello,

    I have a JVC HD100U I shot at 720p 50/25 and when I connect t he firewire and switch to HDV on the camera, I boot up Adobe Premeire Pro 2.0.

    I then go to capture, and all my settings are setup to capture the HDV material as I used the preset for the JVC HD100U from the Adobe website.

    When I try and capture the camera viewfinder indicated “mode switching”, and then indicates that the capture device is offline. If I fast forward the tape manually a bit where footage is then try and re-capture it seems to capture.

    However after the video has conformed Audio driftsa out of aync and the audio say after 5mins drifts then gets stuck on a loop where the audio is being repated and jumbled up with other audio untill the end of the capture.

    If I then install Cineform HDLink trial demo and capture the HDV tape via the camera, it’s fast and responsive and has scene detetc so each take gets made into a new clip.

    I would like to use the Adobe capture without hjaving to install and eventallu buy Cineform HDLink to work with my HDV devices. It seems in Adbe Premeire pro 2.0 when I try and capture the HDV I get device offline status and the interface in the capture becomes very un-responsive and says stopped responding form Adobe Premiere Pro 2.0.

    Has anyone else had any similar problems with capturing HDV material from the JVC HD100U camera via the Firewire connector to their workstation?

    If you browse my profile you can see the system meets the specs to run the Production studio and move data quickly across the system.

    I look forward to hearing of nay work arounds or things I can try as it’s very un-usual.

    Thank you,

    Leo

    Deleted User replied 19 years, 5 months ago 4 Members · 9 Replies
  • 9 Replies
  • Dennis Tzeng

    December 14, 2006 at 1:18 am

    Had the exact same problem, and don’t feel like buying a 500 dollar program to make it work.

  • Deleted User

    December 14, 2006 at 1:57 am

    Hello Duncan,

    I agree I want to work with-in Adobe Premeire Pro 2.0 with HDV material but seems impossible to capture in Adobe Premeire Pro natively.

    Maybe they have bnugs they are working on wonder how many people have the exact same problem?

    And if anyone has succesfuly worked with the JVCHD100U and captured into Adobe Premiere Pro 2.0 and it all worked? I can only think it’s Adobe’s fault as it should work. Then I use Cineform and the camera operates and I can capture clips stand alone with Cineform to my hard drives and audio and video is synched together with no audio problems. If this is an Adobe bug vapturing certain HDV material then hope they work on a fix.

    Thanks,

    Leo

  • Tim Kolb

    December 14, 2006 at 3:47 am

    Unfortunately, I think Aspect HD has in some ways become the standard plugin for HDV…particularly special camera modes like progressive and 24F.

    It’s so fast and responsive compared to editing HDV natively that I really don’t do any HDV native post myself…I’ve never tried a PAL JVC HD100 though…wouldn’t the 50/25 model be an “HD100E” instead of a “U”?

    TimK,
    Director,
    Kolb Productions,

    Creative Cow Host,
    Author/Trainer
    http://www.focalpress.com
    http://www.classondemand.net

  • Deleted User

    December 14, 2006 at 11:19 am

    Hello Tim,

    We are actually confused as the U indicates a US model, but we have the 50/25 setting under the 720p along with 30/60 and 24 when working with the 720p modes for shooting. So I am not sure if it does US and UK formats?

    So is Cineform the best to acquire the footage via firewire with then use in say Ultra by Serious Magic, Adobe Premeire Pro?

    As I thought all the capture toolsset for HDV was already intergrated into Adobe Premeire Pro 2.0 without having to buy a plugin like CIneform to work okay with your clips to get them into the system. I like the Cineform has HDV scene detect.

    Thanks,

    Leo

  • Brenny Boy

    December 14, 2006 at 1:36 pm

    Hello Tim,

    Adobe claim that they have developed a way of editing HDV natively
    within Premiere Pro 2.The captured footage gets Indexed after it is Captured. They have supplied a JVC Pro HD preset for editing 25P which can be downloaded from their website. I have downloaded this preset and tried capturing an Hours Footage shot with The JVC HD 100E into Premiere Pro 2 using my JVC BR HD50 Deck as the source machine. The results were exactly as Leo experienced. It captured the Full hour and after capturing it indexed the file. On examining the audio waveform on the timeline it was obvious that the first 12 minutes of audio had been repeated throughout the full hour of capture.(ie.in a loop) My camera is a JVC HD 100E model.

    Note: The picture was perfect and Scrubbing on the Timeline was very smooth.
    I think that the problem lies somewhere when it indexes the file. I hope that Adobe come up with a fix and that they are aware of this problem.

    Yours Sincerely,
    Brendan Kerins.
    http://www.premvideo.com

  • Tim Kolb

    December 14, 2006 at 9:24 pm

    Editing HDV natively can be done…don’t get me wrong. It’s just that it does take some system resources to do it. On any given machine, the Aspect plugin will run more RT than using Adobe’s native HDV mode.

    I’m an Adobe advocate, so my intention here isn’t to attack adobe…CineForm Aspect just works very well, and the CineForm codec will preserve image quality better than MPEG2 will.

    I haven’t tried to capture an hour from a JVC HDV camcorder, so I can’t verify your findings I’m afraid…or furnish much insight.

    What happens if you try to capture only 10 minutes at a time? Does this keep the audio synced?

    TimK,
    Director,
    Kolb Productions,

    Creative Cow Host,
    Author/Trainer
    http://www.focalpress.com
    http://www.classondemand.net

  • Deleted User

    December 14, 2006 at 9:34 pm

    Hello,

    Yes I had the same problem capturing a 1hour clip, the audio looped after about 10-12 mins of capturing and kept on repeating the audio. I been using Cineform HDLINK but it does not remember my timecodes, if I ever need to re-capture.

    I tried capturing HDV from the JVC HD100U from Cineform via Prmeiere Pro capture interface it was slow, clunky and took ages to comform the clips to a SATA 2 drive with 16mb cache.

    So I think it must be a bug in Premiere pro which is causing the problems?

    Leo

  • Brenny Boy

    December 15, 2006 at 1:19 am

    From what I can remember the first 10 minutes were in sync and I was beginning to think that adobe had pulled off a master stroke.
    Why do Adobe leave their troubleshooting to hard pressed busy people
    like me. Do they take any responsibility for answering and solving
    problems with their software. Do they read and research forums like Creative Cow. If you do please reply urgently with an answer and at least some good news of a fix.

  • Deleted User

    December 15, 2006 at 8:54 pm

    Hello,

    I been using the FS-4 HD from Focus Enhancments to record from the firewire of the JVCHD100U to the Harddrive recorder while shooting. I shot today, loaded the rive and dragged/dropped the clips ready to edit and work with.

    No lags, no fiddlying trying to get Adobe Premiere Pro to work properly to capture or the need for Cineform HDLINK.

    Hopefuly Premiere Pro 3.0 will fix the HDv capture issues from tape.

    Leo

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