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  • I/O DVCPro50 with Premiere Pro 2

    Posted by Queezy Buzell on November 1, 2006 at 3:52 pm

    Hello,

    I am a VFX editor here in Columbia, SC and we are currently upgrading several items around our studios. We have owned and utilized 2 SDX900 Panasonic cameras now for over 2 years…but we have been continuously fighting and losing when attempting to i/o DVCPro50 with Premiere 1.5 and now with version 2.

    I recently found out from Matrox that none of their cards actually support I/O of DVCPro50 so we have been on a hunt to discover which cards do. We do lots of longform/short form video in house so it is essential that we have the ability output the same image that we see on our computer monitors when we output to tape.

    There is no loss when everything is handled Firewire to one of our DVCPro decks…but outputting that signal SDI, there is a significant loss.

    Any suggestions? Or does everything we edit DVCPro50 have to be dumped to DVCPro tape for output to maintain quality?

    Sherard Duvall
    VFX Editor
    Genesis Creative
    Columbia,SC

    God 1st!

    Queezy Buzell replied 19 years, 6 months ago 3 Members · 4 Replies
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  • Tcindie

    November 1, 2006 at 6:07 pm

    Would have to know what format you’re transfering to via SDI, but at the moment..
    I’m afraid the loss your experiencing is likely due to color sampling.

    When you go from DVCPro50 to DV, DVCAM, or even just plain DVCPro you’re moving from 4:2:2 to 4:1:1
    Whereas, if you output to DVCPro50, Digital-S, DigiBeta, D-1, or D-5 you’ll stay within the 4:2:2 colorspace, and shouldn’t experience a loss in quality.

  • Queezy Buzell

    November 1, 2006 at 7:45 pm

    Ironically, I think I may have stumbled across that answer about an hour ago. Which ain’t great…but at least I understand why.

    But I have read…and continue to read that many have I/O DVCPro50 with a simple FireWire/IEEE1394 connection.

    Every computer that we have in house shuts down upon attempt of capturing DVCPRO50 across the FireWire connection…

    is the Bluefish Envy the ONLY solution to this problem? I was under the impression that FireWire should have no problem capturing DVCPro50. Is SDI the only OTHER answer?

    Or is there something we are overlooking?

    Or does this all sound like Spanglish?

    God 1st!

  • Peter Corbett

    November 1, 2006 at 10:26 pm

    We’ve been using DVCPRO50 PAL with Decklink and Premiere for some time and have just bought a SDX900E to replace our 910WA. I go into Premiere via SDI as a 10-bit uncompressed capture. The quality is excellent and transparent. Our 960 deck won’t do firewire, but with the price of drives and the new low-bandwidth MJPEG codec from Blackmagic, I wouldn’t want to.

    Peter Corbett
    Powerhouse Productions
    Australia
    http://www.php.com.au

  • Queezy Buzell

    November 2, 2006 at 3:30 pm

    Thanks Peter…the more I’m reading…the more it looks like SDI is the way to play. I’m sure that Premiere 2 doesn’t have a problem handling DVCPRO50…but it looks like FireWire is not the best route for I/O unless there is something I’m missing.

    Most of the people I’ve spoke with at Bluefish, Digital Voodoo, and AJA also agreed with the SDI route…and they all ave cards available that can handle a SDI I/O of DVCPRO50.

    If there is someone that uses the a FireWire I/O with Premiere 1.5 or 2.0…I would like to pick their brain though…and I hope that they respond. We have a AJ-SD93P deck that we have been attempting to use for transfer but have been unsuccesful.

    Just out of curiosity Peter. What deck are you using to come from to capture…and what card are you currently using to do that with?

    PS- the SDX900 is a GREAT buy…I’ve been in love since.

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