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  • Premiere Pro Render lines

    Posted by Jaysonaz on January 11, 2006 at 4:03 pm

    Does anyone know a solution to lines showing up after rendering in Premiere Pro. The lines occur on any drawn image, for example background titles created in the programs Titler or After Effects cartoon. It is not noticeable with video. I’ve tried interlace and de-interlacing the timeline. Right now I have the project set to Lower fields. A few months ago I thought it may be my video card. So I bought a new one. That didn’t fix it. I now notice this also occurs on my Dell at work. The problem is when a Solid colored image is created in titler then rendered (try a maroon color or dark blue). The lines really show up on TFT screens and CRT screens. When you output to a Ipod device the lines are really noticeable. I’m begining to think this is a Premiere Pro software issue. IF so does Final Cut Pro create a better image. I want a clear clean image.

    Premiere Pro Running on a DELL 3.2 GHz 1 GB Ram, Nvidia Card
    Premiere Pro Running on a Gateway 3.2 GHz 1 GB Ram, ATI Card

    This is a follow up to a question from a few months back.

    Jayson Evans

    Jaysonaz replied 20 years, 4 months ago 5 Members · 7 Replies
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  • Bill Thompson

    January 11, 2006 at 6:49 pm

    I’m seeing the same thing on the version 1.5 tryout. As hard as it is for me to believe, it looks like the artifacts come from the internal dv codec in Premiere.

    I installed the Panasonic vfw dv codec and changed premiere’s export to DV AVI from Microsoft DV AVI (I think), then selected the Panasonic codec. The export is clean. I can’t get an export without the lines you describe using the default codec (no other choice) in Microsoft DV AVI format.

    If I just generate black video and export it, I see the lines. If I’m using my firewire monitor, I always see the lines on it. I think Premiere always uses the same codec to render to it.

    I was wondering if my AMD processor was somehow to blame, however I see you’re using a Pentium 4.

    I’d be very interested in hearing from anyone else with experience with this issue.

    –Bill

  • Jaysonaz

    January 11, 2006 at 9:33 pm

    There’s another guy at the Adobe Forums site that is having the same thing. He even shows some samples of his beautiful footage with the faint render lines. No one seems to want to discuss the real issue with him though. I’m almost certain that this is a premiere pro software issue. Really want to find out. Line to forum is below.

    https://www.adobeforums.com/cgi-bin/webx?13@948.zCDufv6uHg2.6@.3bbdf151/8

  • Aanarav Sareen

    January 11, 2006 at 11:07 pm

    Interesting. I haven’t paid close attention to this. Let me try it on a couple of programs and I will see what I get.

  • Jorge Gil

    January 12, 2006 at 10:57 am

    I sent a bug report to Adobe about this some months ago and was verified by some users too.

    It is the version of the Mainconcept DV codec that uses PPro that have the problem.

    At the Mainconcept Site there is a new version that fixes it, you have replace/rename the file MCDVD_32.DLL(before replace, make a backup) with the new MainConcept DV file.

    The correct version is this, Mainconcept DV codec is 2.4.16

    But you must to buy it, it is not free, even for PPro users 🙁 Anyways you can verify it if it works for you with this demo version.

  • Jaysonaz

    January 12, 2006 at 2:53 pm

    Alright I’ll check it out thanks. I just don’t know why there isn’t more discussion about this. This is really a big deal for Premiere Pro quality. Adobe has ducked the question, I’ve called tech support, used their forum etc. Your the first person with a possible solution.

    Thanks

    J

  • Deep End digital

    January 12, 2006 at 7:09 pm

    hi all

    good point… i thought it was only me who had this. I used to apply effects
    or a fade and these awfull lines appeared. now test this! render it out to avi file. bring that file back in and do it again! you may notice it gets worse. I did a film and when i rerendered the files and bounced it through apps and applied something else it got so bad it looked like a grid. I actually called it ADOBE GRID.

    I now use HDV and because i use aspect hd i dont get it, but saying that you still get something a little like that when a fade is attatched.

    Another way around it is use the dissolve effects and dont fade using the opacity handle as it will have to render the whole clip. i noticed lines appeared then. or if you do you can slice the clip to where the fade is and it will treat that opacity fade as a seperate clip.

    james sharpe

  • Jaysonaz

    January 13, 2006 at 4:05 pm

    Okay I downloaded the new codec. It helped but it isn’t completely clear at least on the screen. I haven’t exported it to DVD yet. It seemed to smooth out the lines so they aren’t so noticeable. At least now I know it is the Main Concept codec which is the issue. I’m really thinking about switching NELs. Unless Adobe gets this fixed in Pro 2.0. I really want to know before I buy it though.

    Jayson

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