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Copying and modifying titles
Does anyone have a good way to modify an existing title for use elsewhere in the sequence without changing the original title? I want to copy the original and paste it at the new location; then open the copied title in the Adobe Titler by double clicking, and making the changes. “Save” and “Save As” overwrites the original title as well as the copy with the changes, and “Save a Copy” makes a copy that has to be reimported and reapplied to the track, so these options aren’t working very well for me.
The reason I want to copy and paste (other than that it’s quick and easy) is that I want to preserve the animation applied to the original title on the copy, while being able to modify the original text.
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Unfortunately, there is no such function present at the moment. However, if you want to save the title animations, you can save it as a preset. Right click on the Motion filter in the ECW > Save as Preset.
Aanarav Sareen
Adobe Certified Expert, Premiere Pro
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Save As should not modify the original at all.
Steven
Adobe Premiere Pro 1.5.1 / After Effects 6.5 Pro https://www.stevengotz.com
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Yhe process is not intuitive. Double click the original .ptrl from the Project Window, not the timeline and then do a “save as”, make your changes and drag the new file to the timeline.
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Thanks very much guys for your helpful comments. Stuff like this make me wonder if the Adobe guys actually use their software. Virtually every other product that Adobe puts out is best in it’s class, but Premiere still has that vestage of light-weightedness that it was born with almost fifteen years ago.
Yes, Premiere Pro was a big step in the right direction, but it has only gotten them halfway to something truly “pro”. Adobe needs to take a two pronged approach: Address existing workflow issues, and develop an innovative set of tools that set it apart from the competition.
If this entails a total rewrite of Premiere’s data structure, than so be it. Adobe is a big company; they can handle it. Otherwise, sooner or later someone will jump into the Windows NLE market and grab it for themselves. Maybe Apple! Wouldn’t that be a blow to Adobe!
Never happen, you say? Why not? Perhaps there is a little tit for tat agreement between the two parties (or three parties – MSFT). Hey, guys, collusion is illegal, or at least it should be.
Continuing with my paranoid conspiricy theory: What if PPro is not being held back by sullen hacks in a Dilbert-esque corporate environment, but in fact is being hobbled by management fat cats attempting to stifle competition and lower short term costs with shady back room agreements?
The customer doesn’t mean much in such a scenario.
Power to a free economy (and better software).
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Hey Eric…all that venting t Adobe because you couldnt work “SAVE AS”.
As far as I can see “Save As” works in Adobe PremPro as it does in every other application. What is not intuitive about that?
Workflow. I am glad that Adobe does not build its software to fit the workflow of some who post on the various PremPro forums. The beauty of it is it allows many workflows and we can all suit ourselves. I consider it a professional application and use it as such.
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[Craig Howard] ” I am glad that Adobe does not build its software to fit the workflow of some who post on the various PremPro forums. The beauty of it is it allows many workflows and we can all suit ourselves.”
Obviously we can’t all suit ourselves. Hence the complaints.
[Craig Howard] ” I consider it a professional application and use it as such.”
I’m afraid your opinion, and perhaps your experience, of professional applications is rather limited.
It’s possible to make Premiere Pro work. I’m doing it. On the other hand it has severe shortcomings that are quite justifiably complained about. Maybe you confuse these shortcomings with workflow.
David
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Complaints ? The original poster was venting because he did not know how to work the “save as” function to achieve his result. Simple and obvious to some, maybe more complicated to others. He was “enlightened” by the responses he got.
May be my “professional experience is limited” but thirty two years in the professional film industry should have revealed something to me by now. There would not be many editing systems (film, on line / off line) I havent seen or been involved with over this time. I feel well positioned to judge what is professional or not.
I stand by my opinion that Premiere has served me in a professional manner.
So in your opinion what is the reason an editor can not suit him/her self with his/her own edit workflow. Sure there will always be another, “better” or ideal way but …PremPro does allow a number of ways to work and I would consider it very flexible despite it not being perfect for all and every instance. We get by and get paid for our results (just like you do I guess)
Dont get me wrong – I am aware it has limitations but tell me what doesnt ?
“maybe I am confusing shortcomings with workflow” – what does that even mean ? I know what a “workflow” is (and it is not the same as a “shortcoming”).
In fact it would be a shortcoming if I did not know what a workflow was !
So why not discuss the shortcomings as you perceive them but continue to work with evidently. Your website indicates you are a professional so why do you use PremPro?
Anyway I am not trying to start a flame war – I am genuinely interested in what other film makers think and how they work.
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[Craig Howard] “”maybe I am confusing shortcomings with workflow” – what does that even mean ? I know what a “workflow” is (and it is not the same as a “shortcoming”).”
Perhaps I should have phrased it as “confusing workarounds with workflow” The point is the shortcomings require workarounds to use the program. This often reduces the efficiency.
[Craig Howard] “So why not discuss the shortcomings as you perceive them but continue to work with evidently. Your website indicates you are a professional so why do you use PremPro?”
The shortcomings have been brought up in this forum frequently enough – ususually once or twice a month. They are legion and keep many professional people from taking PPro seriously. You can go back and read those thereads. They tend to be the longest in the list.
I use this software for two reasons. Matrox Axio makes it the most capable HD NLE for the work I’m doing at present and I’m hoping that version 2 will have addressed the most significant shortcomings. If it doesn’t…well, quite simply put, the product manager should be replaced. The complaints have been coming thick and fast from 1.0. If they’re not mostly addressed by 2.0 he or she has no business shepherding the development of an NLE.
David
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David,
Every NLE has its own set of problems. If you have a minute or two to spare, take a look at either the Apple forums on their site or even the Avid forums and you will see threads spanning over various pages that essentially just complain about the NLE.Aanarav Sareen
Adobe Certified Expert, Premiere Pro
https://www.asvideoproductions.com/video -
[Aanarav Sareen] “Every NLE has its own set of problems. If you have a minute or two to spare, take a look at either the Apple forums on their site or even the Avid forums and you will see threads spanning over various pages that essentially just complain about the NLE.”
Aanarav,
This is true but the design flaws and missing features in PPro make it compare poorly at the present time to Avid and FCP. Because PPro came to the ball late, it had a chance to see what gowns the others were wearing. It tried to copy the best features of both but somehow didn’t notice that it left a lot of ugly seams unstitched, revealing that it couldn’t really dance without tripping over them every now and again. Fact of the matter is, they should have really hired a better gown designer.
Forgive the strained metaphor, but you can get the idea 🙂
David
AllinOneFilms.com
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