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  • OT: professional opinions on quality of this HD transfer

    Posted by Aaron Neitz on August 29, 2006 at 6:55 pm

    conforming a indie film at 1080. there was no $$, so they got favors done for the 1080 with 2 different people *unsupervised*. Shot on Super-16 with kodak 500t stock.

    Facility B’s stuff looks great. Well over 75% of facility A’s stuff looks terrible to me. It strikes me as a SD signal fed in the D5 and it upconverted to 1080… if I blow up my SD reference (digibeta dailies, they all look in good focus on my BVM) it looks nearly identical to the “1080”. Also in Facility B’s stuff, notice this vertical banding in the reds.

    I’d REALLY APPRECIATE some opinions before I rustle any feathers. My HD experience is limited to commercial work shot on super35 with the HD done at a high end facility. Maybe all these “bad” shots are just out of focus… maybe it’s the super 16.

    [these are full 1080 jpgs, about 1.5MB, with my digi ref picture in the corner)

    https://www.kingcut.com/good.jpg
    ….this looks great. all their stuff looks good
    https://www.kingcut.com/bad1.jpg
    ….the first thing you notice is the gate on the sides. that’s a problem because now we have to zoom in to get clean edges. this shot looks terrible. it was shot on the same night, same place, similar lighting.
    https://www.kingcut.com/bad2.jpg
    ….same night… but this looks pretty decent HD. She looks great.
    https://www.kingcut.com/bad3.jpg
    ….same night… looks so bad. could this really be so out of focus?

    Tony replied 20 years ago 3 Members · 6 Replies
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  • Aaron Neitz

    August 29, 2006 at 6:56 pm

    P.S. You’ll need to DOWNLOAD AS the jpegs.

  • Oliver Peters

    August 29, 2006 at 8:22 pm

    Charlie,

    Yes, the bad stuff looks bad except the better one you noted. Are you able to show side-by-sides of the same frames from the two transfers? There are variables. For example, was the same colorist or same telecine used throughout? Was it a Rank that had the CRT changed in the middle of the run? Did they properly set up focus and alignment on the telecine before they started? Is there a reason you can’t just use the one facility giving you the best stuff? Or is the job being split up?

    The reason for the framing issue is that there is some cropping in S16 versus 16×9. Someone needs to tells them whether the sides or top/bottom should match. Did the DP shoot any sort of chart for reference?

    Sincerely,
    Oliver

    Oliver Peters
    Post-Production & Interactive Media
    Orlando, FL
    http://www.oliverpeters.com

  • Aaron Neitz

    August 29, 2006 at 9:08 pm

    thanks for looking Oliver. I just needed to know I wasn’t imagining things.

    these are all the same questions I’d like to have answers to. this is an example of getting exactly what you pay for. the HD transfer were done as “favors,” unsupervised. There’s no money for it – at all – so that’s the best they could get.

    the SD looks great, and it’s finished. Sell the rights, get money to finish it properly….

  • Tony

    August 30, 2006 at 1:36 pm

    Sorry but this is a case of you get what you don’t pay for.

    Tony Salgado

  • Aaron Neitz

    August 30, 2006 at 3:58 pm

    thanks tony. that was helpful.

  • Tony

    August 30, 2006 at 11:37 pm

    Sorry if the truth is painful but these are the hard facts of reality at this time.

    Next time convince the producers to spend the money to do the job right so that issues such as those you are complaining about do not arise or else live with them as they are.

    Honestly I feel your pain but little can be done after the fact when no effort or money was put into doing it right the first time.

    Tony Salgado

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