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A “Place” sold the company I’m helping a KONA 3 system without BLACKBURST?…
The sales guy told them they didn’t need it. I was asked to help with outputs but we had some crazy issues. We basically have to keep unplugging and pluggin in the SDI in to output or watch the picture at this point.
The timecode numbers appear to be way off but the actual picture and actual runtimes are the same. The sales company set it up. It’s on FREEGEN for reference.
They have to get blackburst for Kona 3 HD correct?
Any secrets to making this work without?
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You should be able to set up in Freerun with no issues.
But yes, you should have a blackburst. Horita BSG-50 is a good, cheap unit with 6 outputs. We run it here with no problems.
Walter Biscardi, Jr.
https://www.biscardicreative.com
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you have not described the system. I have no idea of what VTR’s you are using with your Kona 3. As Walter pointed out, a Horita BSG-50 will work just fine – just make sure to get some BNC terminators as well, becuase when you plug the Horita into the Ref Input of the Kona 3 K3Box (which has a looping input), the horita will appear to not work, because the input is not terminated.
Please list the VTR’s you are using with this system.
Bob Zelin
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Sure…was on a time deadline writing before..
it’s a QUAD MAC power pc – 4 TB HUGE scsi RAID – the deck is a Panasonic rental D5 – the frame rate is 1080i 29.97/59.94.
I can capture in freegen okay. I set the deck offset and then everything was fine. captured frame accurate.
On output things got a bit screwy. If I blacked the tape…frame accurate in’s. Assemble edit…yeah…not very accurate there. When I output to the tape I have to look at interference on the monitor until it gets going, but then when I rewind to look at the output…interference noise there. I had to unhook the SDI cable from the KONA 3 to d5 to view…then put it back to output anything else.
Admittingly… this is a rather odd case. I didn’t set this up…it’s the first time it’s been used… and I just came in cold and had a deadline so made things work…but without having the gear in front of me like some of you may…how should I set this set up, up (without a blackburst) to output and watch the best way possible. The monitor is a JVC HD HDSDI . the D5’s output is running into the B switch of the monitor to view the tape playback with supers.
Right now KONA is SDI into deck and reference to FREEGEN. I’ll have to deal with the number offset between the deck and FCP the next chance I’m there.
thanks bob and walter for your assistance.
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The REF IN from the Kona card is plugged INTO the Kona Breakout Box. There is NOTHING plugged into the KONA breakout box reference plugs/loop.
This might be the hangup but which should I do. Unhook the REF IN from CARD to the BREAKOUT box… find some additonal BNC cables and continue the loop onto the deck… terminate it at some point…. have a meltdown?
Sorry..I’m doing this without the system..
Thanks again…
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[mike] “The REF IN from the Kona card is plugged INTO the Kona Breakout Box. There is NOTHING plugged into the KONA breakout box reference plugs/loop. “
This is an oxymoron. The Ref in is plugged into the KBox, but nothing is plugged into the KBox reference? And if, miraculously, you plugged in the breakout cable ref in into the breakout box ref loop, that won’t get you anywhere. The breakout box should be hooked up to your Kona via the supplied DVI/VGA style cables, not the breakout cable.
Jeremy
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Jeremy,
As stated…I didn’t hook this up…I’m getting this information over the phone now…i don’t have or own the system…I was called in to an output and I was concerned of their missing blackburst…
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Mike –
this is exactly the kind of post that makes me go crazy, and gives me my insane reputation. You are obviously not a student that is working at home on a shoe string budget, with no money. You are using the MOST EXPENSIVE VTR, the shoot requirements (D5 uncompressed) are the MOST DEMANDING AND EXPENSIVE requirements in the industry – higher than people like Walter and me see on a regular basis. You have a VERY EXPENSIVE and wonderful disk drive array – a 4TB Huge array, which can easily handle uncompressed HD, and you have the excellent Kona 3 on the latest, top of the line MAC computer.Your “system integrator” or dealer are idiots, and should be shot (or at least exposed).
I assume that you are in LA, since you are using D5, and a reputable dealer like The DR Group would NEVER leave their customer in the lurch, like this dealer did to you.
YES, you need a color black generator, but more important, you need A HUMAN BEING that can ASSIST YOU in the setup of this system. I fully understand that you are not in front of your system, and it is difficult to do this from memory, but this sounds like a BIG BUDGET JOB, and it sounds like your company has PLENTY OF MONEY to buy the best of everything – SO PAY FOR SOME HELP from SOMEONE QUALIFIED.The AJA Kona 3 has an optional break out box called the K3-Box. The K3 box connects to the AJA Kona 3 with a big multipin connector, to give you easy access to the HD inputs and outputs of the Kona 3, in addition to the EXTERNAL GENLOCK REFERENCE INPUT. The Reference INPUT is where you plug your black generator into – you plug the SAME black generator into the D5 VTR. Once you are on REF VID or EXT REF (not free run), the two will be locked together to the SAME sync generator. If you are on a feature, and using a rental company that supplied the D5 VTR, they can certainly rent you a hi quality NTSC color black generator to do this job.
Bob Zelin
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Appreciated Bob,
My origin
I’m going leave this be and just say thank you for all your help.
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Bravo Bob.
gary
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[Bob Zelin] “Your “system integrator” or dealer are idiots, and should be shot (or at least exposed).”
of course, depending on what they look like, I’m not sure I want to see them exposed. Because I don’t think we really want to se that, right? Oh wait. You’re talking about….. Oooooooooooooooh. nevermind.
Walter Biscardi, Jr.
https://www.biscardicreative.com
HD Editorial & Animation for Food Network’s “Good Eats”
HD Editorial for “Assignment Earth”“I reject your reality and substitute my own!” – Adam Savage, Mythbusters
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