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Most Econo Monitor for use with Kona2?
Hi there,
Was just wondering what the word was in the herd for the most economical solution for a HD monitor on the Kona2?Been using a loaned Sony PREMIERPRO SDM-P234. *(BTW: This one I only got to synch on 720p59.94 using the Kona’s Analog out. Since I’ve been only doing the odd DVCPRO HD thing, that was no propblem and did not dig into it further.) Need to get a separate one for the suite now but would need to be able to handle all the Kona2 can give it. Anyone having success with the Dell UltraSharp 2405FPW 24-inch ?
Maybe the Sony LMD-232WS 23-Inch ? Can that work with HD SDI from the Kona2 without the MEU-WX1 box?In essence: What’s the best to go for by the herd’s ruling?
Francois
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Sony PVM-14L5/1 is the multiformat SD/HD monitor of choice for me. It would be the 20″ but you can’t find them new anymore. We run both the 20 and 14 models here. There’s no economy priced LCD monitor out there yet for color correction of video editing. The Panasonic 1700W comes the closest in the economy price range, but even Panny will tell you not to CC with it.
Walter Biscardi, Jr.
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Thanx, W.
Had quite good results going from 1080p24 to 35mm when CCing on the SDM-P234. Whas quite surprized to see it that much on target going streight to neg without correction. (BTW: I’m an indie. Don’t let the 35mm fool you in thinking theres lots of cash around here. KnowhatImean?)
Anyone know how the Dell would compare to the SDM-P234? (I suspect that Apple displays are the same as the SDM-P234 just packaged by Sony, with 15pin input added.)
Francois
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I just purchased one from B&H and in setting it up discover that when I push the blue only button, instead of getting a blue only color bars I get black and white. I recall reading somewhere that some monitors are set up this way… Is this normal for the PVM-14L5/1? Do yours do the same? My previous experience has always been blue only gives you blue, etc.
Also, although I read from an earlier thread that this topic has been covered, no labelling on the box or monitor that it is a PVM-14L5/1, only PVM-14L5. Made in February 2005.
One last thing – getting some very faint and fine waves in my picture. Out putting direct from a Blackmagic Decklink extreme on a Dual 2 ghz G5, component. I’ll post this last query on the Blackmagic site as well.
Thanks for any advice-
Peter Tooke
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As Walter pointed out, the Sony PVM-20L5/1, 14L5/1 are probably the best choices – if you can find them. The Panasonic BT-LH2600W, and BT-LH1700W are excellent if you need both SD and HD displays, as the Panasonic is one of the only monitors that looks good with interlaced SD video – AND they have a build in waveform monitor (that is so so, but it works).
For straight LCD monitors, the Dell 2405FPW and HP 2335 are very good, and both have Y Pb Pr inputs, that can display HD via the K-Box or K3-Box analog HD outputs. The Sony SDM-P234b is one of the few monitors (other than the panasonic) that can show a true 23.98 signal without scaling. Both the SDM-P234b and the Apple 23″ Cinema require an AJA HDP or Blackmagic HDLink HDSDI to DVI adaptor. You don’t need this with the Dell or the HP. AVID recommends the HP2335 for the Nitris.
If you have no money, go to Best Buy, etc. and buy anything – they all work.
Bob Zelin
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Blue Only is a term used to setup chroma, and hue. It is B+W on all Sony PVM “modern” monitors. The setup is very easy with the B+W image, but if you read the damn manual that came with your PVM, you should use the AUTOSETUP function which will adjust your chroma and hue for you.
Bob Zelin
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ah, I drew the lucky straw and the patronizing expertise of BZ. Yes, and ‘damn manual’ read. But my question was not about set up but simply about blue only & whether its monochrome function as B&W instead of blue was normal & not an indication of a problem. As mentioned, with an older PVM20M4U the blue only was in fact blue.
Thanks for your time and answer.
Peter Tooke
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So does the PVM-14L5/1 auto sense a HD signal on the analog component input and auto scale and letterbox to fit? I’m thinking of using it to monitor a KONA LHe and Sony HVR-M15U.
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It will sense the format that you feed it through the analog component inputs, yes. Classic connections such as 1080i, 1080psf, PAL, NTSC, a version of 720p, component, RunGunBlue, sixteen nine and four by three are available through three supplied color coded and labeled cables. It is worth mentioning that you will provide your own cabling if you choose to have a KBox. If you so require, composite and s-video are provided built in to the monitor for all your multiformat analog sd television needs. In response to your question of autoscaling the letterbox, I will answer with a clarification question and a few subsequent statements. Do you mean to correct the aspect ratio of your particular form of HDV to an engineered standard for monitoring purposes? It’s late and I’ve been working more than I can logically explain. I can attempt to answer by telling you this operation is left to the job of your flavor of Kona card in conjunction with FCP in a faithful effort to carefully reconstruct a picture that this monitor will support by modifying what it needs in a whole heartedly respectful and peaceful manner.
For further discussion, Texas, …what do you need to do? Do you have an HDV project of some sort?
Jeremy
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Jeremy,
I would like to use the PVM-14L5/1 to monitor a SD JVC D-9 deck(480i), a Sony HDV deck(1080i and 480i)), and the KNOA LHe(multiple format). I would like to route the component outs of all these sources to a passive selector, and then onto the PVM. The question is, will it support these various signals without the optional HD input board–to which I think you answered “yes”.
The second question is–As I switch through these various component signals, will the PVM automatically detect the resolution and aspect ratio? Or, will I need to go into a menu or use front panel buttons to tell it what kind and size of signal I am sending?
I’m guessing that if it is like older PVMs, I will at least have to use the 16:9 button when going between a SD and HD(1080i) source. Or will I?? -
Hi there, Bob.
Thanx for the info. 😉
Question: What do you mean by ” The Sony SDM-P234b is one of the few monitors (other than the panasonic) that can show a true 23.98 signal without scaling” ? Might be a stupid question but what’s the link between framerate and scaling / aspect?thnx.
Francois
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