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  • Bob Zelin

    December 15, 2011 at 4:04 am

    Fibre –
    Facilis Terrablock
    Studio Network Solutions
    (old) AVID Unity
    Apple XSAN (using Promise or Active Storage arrays)
    Tiger Technology MetaSAN
    Command Soft Fibre Jet (with Rorke Data storage)
    JMR (with Command Soft or MetaSAN software)
    Sonnet Technology (with Command Soft or MetaSAN software)

    10Gig Ethernet –
    Maxx Digital Final Share
    Small Tree Granite Stor
    Studio Network Solutions
    EditShare
    Apace Systems
    AVID ISIS 5000

    1Gig Ethernet –
    Maxx Digital Final Share
    Small Tree Granite Stor
    Studio Network Solutions
    Edit Share
    Apace Systems
    ProMax ShareMax
    Tiger Technology MetaLAN
    AVID ISIS 5000

    InfiniBand Solutions –
    Cal Digit Super Share
    Accusys

    DROBO is NOT a shared storage system, no matter what anyone
    on this forum says

    Other vendors that I know little about –
    Isilon
    San Solutions
    there are several other European vendors that have been mentioned on this forum, that do not have much press in the US. This does not mean that they are not good – they just don’t have a lot of press.

    at this moment G-Technology does not make a shared storage solution.
    at this moment, Lacie does not make a shared storage solution.

    OK – what is your next question ?

    bob Zelin

  • Paul Provost

    December 15, 2011 at 5:08 am

    ok
    this is for shared archival storage (commercial production company’s entire library – 15 years x 20 directors, many thousands of commercials + room for more)
    so raid 1 (24TB x 2)?
    10 gig or 1 gig ethernet for pro res hq 1080?
    maxx or small tree?

    https://www.postandbeam.tv
    grade and finish @ post + beam
    https://www.facebook.com/pages/post-beam/137967176232067

  • Erik Freid

    December 15, 2011 at 2:13 pm

    Hi Bob,

    Having worked with San Solutions at the last Broadcast facility I worked at, I can give them a big thumbs up. If you need mission critical (Ie ready to air), zero down time and bulletproof, they are the guys, seriously if they see problems a guy is at your door in 24 hours or less it it cannot be fixed via VPN/remote access. Not inexpensive (so probably not for this forum) but the best I have worked with.

    Harry Aine the president developed what is now Stornext. And I have had great service from Drew and Bill on the design and support side.

    Erik

    Erik Freid | MediaSilo, Inc
    207 South Street | Third Floor | Boston, MA 02111
    t. 617.423.6200, m. 617.306.8632, f. 617.507.8577
    http://www.mediaSilo.com erik@mediasilo.com

  • Bob Zelin

    December 16, 2011 at 2:28 am

    there are no bad companies in the list I have provided for you above.
    It is your job to call these companies, ask them questions, ask for references, and see which one suits you best.

    Bob Zelin

  • Andrew Richards

    December 16, 2011 at 1:26 pm

    [Paul Provost] “this is for shared archival storage (commercial production company’s entire library – 15 years x 20 directors, many thousands of commercials + room for more)”

    RAID/SAN is not ideal archival storage, LTO is. If you all need to edit from the same footage at the same time, get a SAN. If you only need to archive and let everyone get access to the archive via the network, look at solutions from Cache-A or Storage DNA.

    Best,
    Andy

  • Paul Provost

    December 16, 2011 at 4:29 pm

    Hi speed shared storage is still being spaced though

    https://www.postandbeam.tv
    grade and finish @ post + beam
    https://www.facebook.com/pages/post-beam/137967176232067

  • Paul Provost

    December 16, 2011 at 6:08 pm

    Thanks for the feedback guys
    Just waiting to here back about budget from CFO…

    https://www.postandbeam.tv
    grade and finish @ post + beam
    https://www.facebook.com/pages/post-beam/137967176232067

  • James Mckenna

    December 19, 2011 at 10:33 pm

    Thanks for the vote of confidence Bob! Along with fibre we also do 10GbE and 1GbE universally writable volumes on OSX, Win, Linux (very soon!) through our Shared File System. We’re the only turn-key solution that does that. Check out our Youtube page (youtube.com/user/FacilisTechnology) for some pictures and words that explain a lot about what we do.

    Happy Holidays!

    Jim McKenna
    Facilis Tech

  • Marco Stahl

    January 13, 2012 at 5:44 pm

    You forgot to mention that FlavourSys Strawberry does this too. We come with support for SAN file systems such as StorNext, HyperFS and XSAN along with multi application support for Avid, FCP, Premiere and more .We do 1GB and 10Gbit ethernet as well – even in mixed environments. Each Strawberry Client provides a google style instant search for projects, meta data, media files and avid bin content. We work on the project (not volume) level and have a build in user and team management.

    Have a look at this page and watch our video:
    https://flavoursys.com/strawberry-is-collaborative-editing.html

    Kind Regards – Marco

  • Andrew Ryann

    January 30, 2012 at 4:28 pm

    OK, I may be opening a can of worms here, but I really want to know what the advantages are of some providers that Bob listed earlier, specifically over some other solutions that I have been using and researching.

    We have a MacPro and an iMac with the occasional MacBook Pro thrown into the mix. We primarily work in ProRes422 with FCP7 and AE 5.5. We have a Thecus N7700PRO hanging off of our switch as our primary media server. Its populated with 7-3TB Hitachi Deskstars. We’ve had the Thecus online for about six months and it has worked perfectly. It gives us 107-120mbps on our 1gig net, which is more than enough throughput for us and similar to what I see advertised by Smalltree and Promax

    We are looking to expand and I have been looking at the Qnap TS-EC1279U-RP. It’s $4,679 from B&H.
    https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/826850-REG/Qnap_TS_EC1279U_RP_US_TS_EC1279U_RP_12_Bay_IP_SAN_NAS.html

    Populated with the new 3TB Ultrastars at $369/per:
    https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/772033-REG/Hitachi_0F12456_3_TB_3_5_Ultrastar.html

    And I have a 36TB media server for under $10K, with a spare drive. A similar setup from Promax, at 32TB nonetheless, is just about $15K. Smalltree is even more.

    Can anyone tell me a downside to the Qnap or Thecus servers or explain why I should pay 50-200% more from these other providers? Yes, I’m guessing that they offer support, but is it really worth the additional $$?

    Thanks,

    Andrew

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