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How do you handle audio ticks due to rough edit boundaries?
Hi,
Most audio programs, like Pro Tools for example, have a crossfade tool that allows you to eliminate ticks. I haven’t been able to find one just for audio in FCP X. Is there one?
Or do I click on the clip, drop the audio timeline down and try sliding?
Thanks,
Ty Ford
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Hey Ty-
FCPX audio containers have fade handles at the edges. You can also keyframe audio in the inspector or on a clip. That said- ticks I’m assuming you mean audible pops shouldn’t happen if the sampling rates are in order. Perhaps you could describe the situation in more depth?
Noah
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I use the fade handles for a quick fix otherwise I use CTRL-S to reveal the audio, zoom in as much as needed and massage the edit a little. Usually only takes a few seconds to sort out.
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Hi Noah,
They are zero crossover errors from two dissimilar sections of audio bumping up against each other. I tried the Control S suggestion. That worked in one situation but caused 2 clicks in the other.
Regards,
Ty
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It’s amazing zero-crossing edits aren’t standard. In the 90s when we used a Sonic Solutions DAW every edit was made at a zero point. You get clicks because you have a step-function where one side of the edit is low energy and the other is higher. The sudden transition manifests as a click. What I do to eliminate this kind of click is extend the audio on both sides of the edit and apply fades to each. It’s a bit of a pain, but that will eliminate zero crossing clicks.
Then there’s Alex4Ds Sound Only transition here.
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Hmm I’d take a good at the sources- haven’t hit this in years of FCPX editing. Or maybe you could provide an audible example for those of us not quite so attuned as you are.
Noah
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Where I notice it happening a lot in dialog is where one take has a strong low frequency rumble (which in most cases you’d never hear without a sub woof) and it cuts to a take where the rumble is gone. If no SFX or music is there to mask it, you’ll hear a click. You can see the low freq rumble on meters. Another way to lessen this kind of click is apply a hi-pass filter that takes out the very low frequencies.
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At the end of the day audio editing isn’t FCPX’s strong suit. Sometimes there’s good reason to send the audio to an external app for finishing.
But I can say that I’ve been exclusively editing in FCPX since the day it was released and I could count on one hand the times I had a zero crossing issue, and I can’t remember any time I couldn’t massage it away by tweaking the edit at the sub-frame level.
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Hello John,
Yes, I know about Zero Crossover errors. I was just expecting a less kludgey fix.
I got rid of them, but sheeseh!
Good to see you out here.
Regards,
Ty
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Jeff,
Thanks, how do you zoom to the sample level without getting bloody nose?
Will the zoom bar take you that close?
Thanks,
Ty
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I usually use Cmd-= and Cmd– to quickly zoom in and out; you can zoom in super close and trim/adjust the audio levels easily, then zoom back out and continue with your edit. The audio fade handles are super handy, and you can also keyframe if needed by Opt-clicking on the volume line in the clip.
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