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    Importing MiniDV tapes

    Posted by James Taylor on July 27, 2011 at 7:23 pm

    I have a few MiniDV tapes I want to import into FCPX. I just did the first one and everything seemed to go OK. However, I had closed FCPX and tried to open the file in Quicktime Player, but there was not sound? There was definitely sound in FCPX when I scrub through the clip. Is this normal behavior or have I done something wrong?

    Thanks,

    JT

    Fred Waycoot replied 14 years, 9 months ago 4 Members · 17 Replies
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  • Tom Wolsky

    July 27, 2011 at 8:44 pm

    “I just did the first one”

    How did you do the first one exactly? Did you use FCP?

    Open the clip in the QT player and report exactly what it says in the movie inspector.

    All the best,

    Tom

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  • James Taylor

    July 27, 2011 at 10:09 pm

    Thanks Tom,

    Yes, I used FCPX to capture it. I didn’t check any of the boxes (proxy files or separate silent channels).

    QTime says:

    /Users/Taylor/Movies/Final Cut Events/New Event 7-27-11/Original Media/2004-03-23 08_50_31 (id).mov

    DV, 720 x 480 (640 x 480), Millions
    16-bit Integer (Little Endian), 4.0 (_ _ _ _), 32.000 kHz

    29.97

    38.6 MB

    30.82 Mbit/s

    640 x 480 pixels (Actual)

    JT

  • Tom Wolsky

    July 27, 2011 at 10:29 pm

    That all looks fine. I don’t understand why there’s no audio in the QT player.

    All the best,

    Tom

    Class on Demand DVDs “Complete Training for FCP7,” “Basic Training for FCS” and “Final Cut Express Made Easy”
    Coming in 2011 “Complete Training for FCPX”
    and “Final Cut Pro X for iMovie and Final Cut Express Users” from Focal Press

  • Craig Seeman

    July 27, 2011 at 10:35 pm

    I can’t help but think the 32kHz audio has something to do with it . . . but maybe not.
    Open the file in VLC and go to Audio/Visualizations and select Spectrum and tell me if you see the bar graphs moving.

  • James Taylor

    July 28, 2011 at 2:10 am

    OK, this is very weird. I randomly pulled several clips to the desktop (copied from the FCPX events folder). Two of the five clips opened in VLC and had sound, the others opened, but did not have sound. Garage Band would import them, but with no sound. iMovie tried to import (copied them to the iMove folder), but would not show them in the project. Still wondering why FCPX will play audio just fine, but no other program will play the audio?

    Thanks,

    JT

    JT

  • James Taylor

    July 28, 2011 at 2:19 am

    I just opened one of the clips that would not play in VLC or QTime into AECS5 and the sound works fine.

    JT

  • Craig Seeman

    July 28, 2011 at 2:45 am

    Check the clips in MediaInfo and see if there’s any pattern regarding the audio between clips that do and don’t play in Quicktime.

    Did you see the spectrum meters move on the clips that didn’t seem to have audio?
    Seeing and hearing may be different so please do confirm.

  • James Taylor

    July 28, 2011 at 3:07 am

    All of the clips play in Quicktime – none of them have audio.

    In VLC, the clips with sound showed the spectrum meters. The clips with no sound in VLC did not show the spectrum meters.

    All the clips play fine in FCPX.

    JT

  • Craig Seeman

    July 28, 2011 at 11:25 am

    Please check clips in MediaInfo and see what it says for the audio.
    https://mediainfo.sourceforge.net/en/Download

  • James Taylor

    July 28, 2011 at 3:01 pm

    Here is what it says:

    General
    Complete name : /Users/Taylor/Desktop/2004-04-03 17_02_28 (id).mov
    Format : MPEG-4
    Format_Commercial_IfAny : DVCPRO
    Format profile : QuickTime
    Codec ID : qt
    File size : 7.78 MiB
    Duration : 2s 69ms
    Overall bit rate : 31.5 Mbps
    Encoded date : UTC 2011-07-27 21:34:29
    Tagged date : UTC 2011-07-27 21:34:31
    Writing library : Apple QuickTime
    com.apple.proapps.manufacturer : Canon
    com.apple.proapps.modelname : ELURA50
    com.apple.proapps.clipID : 52F7521B-DD09-4453-B85B-E9AD0A21C16C
    com.apple.proapps.ingestDate.des : 2011-07-27 14:34:29 -0700
    com.apple.proapps.originalFormat : DV/DVCPRO – NTSC
    com.apple.proapps.mediaRate : Unknown kind of value!
    com.apple.proapps.timecodeFormat : Drop
    com.apple.quicktime.creationdate : 2004-04-03T17:02:28-0800
    com.apple.quicktime.make : Apple
    com.apple.quicktime.model : MacBookPro8,2
    com.apple.quicktime.software : Mac OS X 10.6.8 (10K549)

    Video
    ID : 2
    Format : DV
    Format_Commercial_IfAny : DVCPRO
    Codec ID : dvc
    Duration : 2s 69ms
    Bit rate mode : Constant
    Bit rate : 24.4 Mbps
    Width : 704 pixels
    Original width : 720 pixels
    Height : 480 pixels
    Display aspect ratio : 4:3
    Frame rate mode : Constant
    Frame rate : 29.970 fps
    Standard : NTSC
    Color space : YUV
    Chroma subsampling : 4:1:1
    Bit depth : 8 bits
    Scan type : Interlaced
    Compression mode : Lossy
    Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 2.411
    Stream size : 7.10 MiB (91%)
    Title : Core Media Video
    Encoding settings : wb mode= / white balance= / fcm=auto focus
    Encoded date : UTC 2011-07-27 21:34:29
    Tagged date : UTC 2011-07-27 21:34:31
    Material_Duration : 2102
    Material_StreamSize : 7560000
    Material_FrameCount : 63

    Audio #1
    ID : 1
    Format : PCM
    Format settings, Endianness : Big
    Format settings, Sign : Unsigned
    Codec ID : lpcm
    Duration : 2s 69ms
    Bit rate mode : Constant
    Bit rate : 2 048 Kbps
    Channel(s) : 4 channels
    Sampling rate : 32.0 KHz
    Bit depth : 16 bits
    Stream size : 517 KiB (6%)
    Title : Core Media Audio
    Encoded date : UTC 2011-07-27 21:34:29
    Tagged date : UTC 2011-07-27 21:34:31
    Material_Duration : 2135
    Material_StreamSize : 546680

    Audio #2
    ID : 2-0
    Format : PCM
    Muxing mode : DV
    Muxing mode, more info : Muxed in Video #1
    Duration : 2s 69ms
    Bit rate mode : Constant
    Bit rate : 768 Kbps
    Channel(s) : 2 channels
    Sampling rate : 32.0 KHz
    Bit depth : 12 bits
    Delay relative to video : 133ms
    Stream size : 0.00 Byte (0%)

    Audio #3
    ID : 2-1
    Format : PCM
    Muxing mode : DV
    Muxing mode, more info : Muxed in Video #1
    Duration : 2s 69ms
    Bit rate mode : Constant
    Bit rate : 768 Kbps
    Channel(s) : 2 channels
    Sampling rate : 32.0 KHz
    Bit depth : 12 bits
    Delay relative to video : 133ms
    Stream size : 0.00 Byte (0%)

    Menu
    ID : 3
    Title : Core Media Time Code
    Encoded date : UTC 2011-07-27 21:34:29
    Tagged date : UTC 2011-07-27 21:34:31
    Bit rate mode : CBR

    JT

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