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  • If you can’t “stand” back pain, stand

    Posted by Bob Cole on May 5, 2009 at 8:19 pm

    I think this thread first appeared on the FCP Forum, but it really applies to all editors: how to avoid becoming a back-cripple while still spending hours in front of an NLE.

    One person mentioned his solution: elevating his desk so he could stand all day. At the time I thought that was kind of radical, but in the Season 3 “Lost” DVD “day in the life” video, one of their main editors actually does just that. His desk was propped up on two wooden boxes; there was a bar stool in the room, but in the clips he was shown simply standing, alternating between the keyboard/mouse and the script, which was propped up on a little stand.

    I’m not sure I could commit myself to standing all the time, but it would be neat to have a desk whose height you could change. The only ones I’ve actually seen are extremely expensive. It would actually be cheaper to have a second set of monitors and keyboard at a second desk (if I had the space).

    Bob C

    Jeffrey Krepner replied 16 years, 12 months ago 16 Members · 30 Replies
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  • Jason Diebler

    May 5, 2009 at 8:25 pm

    Walter Murch has only ever edited this way… he says editing is a dance.

    Of course, this wouldn’t work for me, my back hurts worse if I’m on my feet very long.

  • Bob Bonniol

    May 5, 2009 at 8:30 pm

    I am totally sold on this. I made the change, and I would never go back. My chronic back pain has totally receded. I am losing weight, and have more energy. I also absolutely buy the Murch opinion that editing is dancing. When I am cutting or compositing I am dancing bobbing, FEELING tempo, rhythm…

    I don’t use anything fancy… Just have my table jacked up on piled half apples…

    I totally recommend it.

    Bob Bonniol

    MODE Studios
    http://www.modestudios.com
    Contributing Editor, Live Design Magazine
    Art of the Edit Forum Leader
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  • Grinner Hester

    May 5, 2009 at 8:50 pm

    I have a way bum knee that makes that impossible. Having had ten too many bad car wrecks, the ole back is a bummer too. I have found the best solution for me is a custom made console that is much higher than desks, allowing me to scoot my chair under it and rest my arm on it as I sit and edit. It’s high enough I have to sit up straight, couldnt slouch if I wanted to. I have to pop my back about every hour as pinched nerves will make it numb in spots… then tingle which aint cool.
    We are all made differently. It aint a one size fits all world. An oversized console is the fit my me.

  • Jeremy Garchow

    May 5, 2009 at 8:54 pm

    What I want is a table/desk that is a monitor (computer, video, and otherwise). It can be height adjustable for standing or sitting. Basically, the table is one huge giant touch screen monitor with the NLE interface of your choice and of course all programmable. No mouse, just our fingers, or a pointing device of your choice. Point, drag, done. keyboard is built in and can be configured in whatever shape or fashion you like.

  • Bob Cole

    May 5, 2009 at 9:18 pm

    First, Jeremy — Sheesh. I love the ideas, but NLE-style editing is already a lot of fun compared to upright moviolas and razor blades. If editing gets any cooler, do you think anybody will hire us to do it?????

    Grinner, you may want to check out therapeutic yoga. My wife had a few sessions of it for back pain, and it really helped her. I’m starting regular yoga (cheap style, with a DVD from the library), and it is kind of neat. I like the way that it focuses on teaching you how to relax, even though it’s a real workout.

    I want to find the adjustable-height-but-cheap table.

    Bob C

  • Hamish Boyd

    May 6, 2009 at 12:15 am

    A mate of mine has this desk…

    https://www.amesystem.com.au/products/computer-desks/Height-Adjustable-Computer-Desk-expert.aspx

    motorized desk.. so he has the best of both worlds.
    He has a number of monitors on arms hanging off it and splits his day up from standing and sitting.

    Awesome piece of kit. Not sure where you get it in the states though.

  • Mark Raudonis

    May 6, 2009 at 12:18 am

    [Bob Cole] “I want to find the adjustable-height-but-cheap table. “
    Saw this at NAB:

    https://www.activatethespace.com/Activate_The_Space/Mode-AL.html

    Very cool adjustable edit furniture. Don’t know the price, but this stuff AIN’T cheap!

    How much is your back worth?

    mark

  • Arnie Schlissel

    May 6, 2009 at 1:15 am

    [hamish boyd] “A mate of mine has this desk…”

    Yes, but does he have those stiletto heels? I think Eddie Izzard has a few pairs!

    Arnie
    Post production is not an afterthought!
    https://www.arniepix.com/

  • Arnie Schlissel

    May 6, 2009 at 1:16 am

    Jeremy, what you want is that workstation that Tom Cruise had in “Minority Report”!

    Arnie
    Post production is not an afterthought!
    https://www.arniepix.com/

  • Jeremy Garchow

    May 6, 2009 at 1:33 am

    [Arnie Schlissel] “what you want is that workstation that Tom Cruise had in “Minority Report”! “

    Mmmm, kinda, but without the over acting, the “just to be cool” cool factor, and the pre-cognition people in the hot tub. A simple table with height and tilt adjust that’s an actual touch screen and not a virutal touch screen would be kick butt.

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