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Looks like the FCP X forces converted another AVID editor. Wonder who gets the toaster prize?????
Posted by Bill Davis on August 20, 2019 at 12:52 amhttps://nofilmschool.com/switched-final-cut-pro-x-after-25-years
Creator of XinTwo – https://www.xintwo.com
The shortest path to FCP X mastery.Oliver Peters replied 6 years, 10 months ago 10 Members · 45 Replies -
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Neil Goodman
August 20, 2019 at 2:39 amFor all the things he can say about FCPX that make’s it better FOR HIM – I can make 5 cool videos about stuff thats only in Avid that makes it better FOR ME. Then some other guy is going to make a video about PPRO and Davinci and why those are better for him.
Whats more apparent to me now more than ever – with 4 badass NLE’s on the market that are all fully capable, is that its coming back around to the focus on the “artist” and not the “paintbrush”. Who cares what so and so is cutting on – is the work good?
Editors now have to put up or shut up because there are no excuses within either of the NLE’s, and theres an insane amount of talent thats ambidextrous when it comes to the software available.
Not to mention – most of us Bill – still don’t get a choice. To be blind to any of the offerings is just dumb at this point in the game. I could talk up FCPX until Im am blue in the face – no ones listening,.. I use PPRO daily at my job for the last 2 years – I don’t like it at all and personally think its the weakest of the 4 at this point – no ones listening. I just gotta show up and cut better than the next guy.
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Oliver Peters
August 20, 2019 at 12:04 pmWell, it’s easy to say he switched, but the real proof is whether he can make headway in using his now-preferred NLE on actual jobs that aren’t projects totally under his control. Especially in series work – you use what the team has decided on.
It’s also 8 years at this point and we are still pointing to a very small number of “conversions.” Yes, I know there are large installation here and there. OTOH, there are quite a large number of post suppliers in all of the major markets around the world who readily field 80 to 100 Avid systems on long-form project rentals. And…those are often running on older hardware and software versions. FCPX has yet to come up with a competitive collaboration solution to challenge this.
So the story is nice – and thanks for posting – but isn’t it just another drop in the ocean?
BTW – some of the selling points in his video are meh. For example, compound clips are not unique to FCPX. You can do the exact same thing in Premiere using nested sequences. Works the same way, except that the timing isn’t messed up in the main sequence if you change the timing within the nest, which would be the case with the magnetic timeline and compounds in FCPX.
– Oliver
Oliver Peters – oliverpeters.com
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Herb Sevush
August 20, 2019 at 12:13 pmSame old, same old. Could only get through two minutes of the “searching” segment before rolling my eyes. This guy may have been editing for 25 years but apparently he’s never heard of organizing footage on timelines and pancake editing.
Herb Sevush
Zebra Productions
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Greg Janza
August 20, 2019 at 2:53 pmIs there any way possible to bring this now completely meaningless debate to an end?
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Neil Goodman
August 20, 2019 at 3:19 pm[Herb Sevush] “apparently he’s never heard of organizing footage on timelines “
When I watch alot of these videos – the common theme is my life is changed when actually – most of these solutions already exist in other apps. They just didnt know where to look or how to be creative with the tool set
For example.
Keywords in FCPX – They are awesome indeed. No ones arguing that.
But in Avid I can simply drop a marker with the word “b-roll” or “close-up” or a whole sentence of dialougue, and that is now searchable and immediately called up with a click.
dont even need to use markers to achieve this but its one way to do it.
Another example:
Background Transcoding/ Rendering.
In FCPX nothing actually happens until you STOP working. Therefore nothing is really happening in the background.
In Avid – you have the option to let it actual do the transcode/render while you work – or it’ll pause like FCPX when you work, and do the computing when the user is idle.
Somehow a 30 year old program implemented a better solution to background processing than FCPX that gives the user more options.
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Eric Santiago
August 20, 2019 at 3:24 pmFor my recent experience, FCPX topped Avid in pre-assembly.
A RED 8K project 30TB no timecode to boot.
It was fun using the sync option for two weeks after hours after data delivery.
Yep, they wanted proxies by next day 😛
I know I’m a sucker for punishment.
Also of note, even if I did the 3 perf option in Avid, playback on the same system was brutal between 4K to 8K files using MC 2018.x.
As long as the files are on RAID, FCPX playback was butter 🙂 -
Oliver Peters
August 20, 2019 at 3:38 pm[Neil Goodman] “Somehow a 30 year old program implemented a better solution to background processing than FCPX that gives the user more options.”
Not to mention something like PhraseFind!
– Oliver
Oliver Peters – oliverpeters.com
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Eric Santiago
August 20, 2019 at 5:27 pm[Neil Goodman] “Somehow a 30 year old program implemented a better solution to background processing than FCPX that gives the user more options.”
IMHO it still doesn’t take away the years I’ve had to struggle through that app 😛
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Paul Neumann
August 20, 2019 at 5:43 pmNot to mention – most of us Bill – still don’t get a choice.
So, I have a new client that sent me a link to a Sharepoint site where they would like to have all project files dropped off at the end of the job.
They didn’t ask. I didn’t offer.
But the folders were labeled “Premiere Projects”, “After Effects Projects”, “Audition Projects”, “Photoshop Files”….
You get the point.
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Oliver Peters
August 20, 2019 at 6:28 pm[Paul Neumann] “Sharepoint site”
As an FYI – FCPX Libraries get messed up with these types of services. Definitely DropBox. If you send a Library, make sure to zip it first.
– Oliver
Oliver Peters – oliverpeters.com
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