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APFS considerations
Posted by Oliver Peters on September 15, 2017 at 6:45 pmIt’s around the corner. Be careful!
https://www.fcp.co/fcp-forum/2-off-topic/27948-apfs#90574
https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT208018
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Walter Soyka replied 8 years, 10 months ago 9 Members · 43 Replies -
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Steve Connor
September 15, 2017 at 6:55 pmTimely post Oliver, thanks. Worth posting in the FCPX forum as well?
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Greg Janza
September 15, 2017 at 7:00 pmClassic Apple move.
Here’s my favorite line from the fcp.co post:
“For example, a USB storage device formatted as APFS can be read by a Mac using High Sierra, but not by a Mac using Sierra or earlier.”Apple, creating the need for third-party software developers since 1976.
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Oliver Peters
September 15, 2017 at 7:02 pmGood idea. Done.
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Oliver Peters
September 15, 2017 at 7:07 pmI think for now the SOP should be:
– Your internal Mac drive (new machines) – APFS
– External drives for Mac use – HFS+
– USB “thumb” drives – Fat32 (still) or ExFatAn unknown is whether on day one, will there be any read/write (native or with an extension) compatibility with NTFS-formatted (Windows) external drives?
NAS and SAN drives will need to be connected via SMB or NFS protocols, I presume.
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Bill Davis
September 15, 2017 at 7:19 pmSounds like if like many of us, you have a closet full of HFS + formatted drives with archives of prior projects, what you need to do is pretty much nothing.
When (if) you migrate to High Sierra – your archives will be fully accessible on day one.
And if you resurrect an old project and work on it in High Sierra – the only thing you lose is total compatibility if anyone then wants to open the High Sierra version back in the older OS.
It’s great this is being discussed up front and for editors inside big IT installations without OS deployment control, very important.
But for most editors NOT in big facilities – this is essentially a non-issue.
Do I have this correct?
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Oliver Peters
September 15, 2017 at 8:10 pm[Bill Davis] “It’s great this is being discussed up front and for editors inside big IT installations without OS deployment control, very important.
But for most editors NOT in big facilities – this is essentially a non-issue.
Do I have this correct?”Actually I think it’s the other way around. This is probably an update that you should hold back on and see what issues pop up, rather than jumping right in. A bit of an unknown is how it will actually work in dual-boot situations. For example, those who want to be able to boot into an older OS to access FCP “legacy”. Right now there are still some unknowns that we need to see what happens once it’s in the wild. A good reason to keep an old Mac Pro around frozen on an old build.
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Andrew Kimery
September 15, 2017 at 8:31 pmI can envision this being a potential headache for any scenario where drives are being sent around (either between you and the client or you and other members of your team). For example, I recently did some work on a doc as an AE and the producer provided both a master and backup drive as well as a handful of ‘travel’ drives for shutting small amounts of material around. The drives got repeatedly passed between the editor, the producer, the colorist, the rerecording mixer, a post house and myself. All of us live/work in Los Angeles, but we were never in the same room together (aside from the producer who doubled as the drive shuttler).
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Greg Janza
September 15, 2017 at 10:09 pm[Andrew Kimery] “I can envision this being a potential headache for any scenario where drives are being sent around”
I completely agree. Most of my work comes to me on shipped drives that have originated on a wide variety of systems. The notion of a drive not mounting due to lack of OS compatibility used to solely be an issue in Windows but even that’s gone away.
But like with so many things Apple, hopefully if there is compatibility issues, a third party company like Tuxera will offer up a fix to save the day.
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Charlie Austin
September 15, 2017 at 10:53 pmFWIW, it’s my understanding that spinning drives won’t be formatted to APFS so this won’t make any difference. if you’re exchanging SSD’s then it’s a consideration…
For “dual boot” situations, I plan on buying an external HD, and cloning my Sierra system before I update. If for some reason I need to get an FCP 7 project or something, just plug in and reboot.
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Oliver Peters
September 15, 2017 at 10:55 pmIt will also be a factor for new machines purchased after macOS HS is released.
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