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  • Mark Dobson

    August 15, 2013 at 9:00 am

    As someone who switched from FCP7 to FCPX over 2 years ago I watched the linked clip with interest.

    It just all looks so square, inelegant and old fashioned compared to the way that FCPX works, very techy and and unintuitive to my eye.

    Many of the tips that are shown really demonstrate that FCPX is really ahead of the game, that many of of the setups are done automatically, how much is under the hood.

    And surely Hover Scrub is direct copy from FCPX, but in a very pedantic way that misses out on the metadata features offered by FCPX Event Library.

    So despite many frustrations of working with FCPX I’m really glad that I took that route, rather than slipping back into the over complex workflow of the FCP7 + world of Premiere and fingers crossed I won’t have to take up a subscription to continue using FCPX.

  • Bret Williams

    August 15, 2013 at 1:20 pm

    That’s how I felt when I read the list of new features for Premiere CC. The vast majority of features were nothing new to legacy or Avid. Many of them had been in legacy or Avid for 10 or 15 years.

  • Nicholas Zimmerman

    August 15, 2013 at 2:04 pm

    I’m teaching a class on Premiere tomorrow and I absolutely despise using it! I switched to it (Pr) for about five months from 10.0 to 10.0.3, and reviewing it for this guest lecture has me going nuts. It’s for a group of photography students that have 0 experience with video. These kids don’t know what a codec is, they don’t care about timeline format, they just want to tell a story, i.e. edit. I’m doing it as a favor for a friend, and their lab doesn’t have X so it’s not even a real option for them, but I’ll sure as hell mention that for my work, I prefer X.

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  • Bill Davis

    August 15, 2013 at 3:59 pm

    Now guys, lets be nice.

    After all, going over the Creative Cloud or Not – the Debate – and posting “10 things about FCP-X that have made editing fun for me again!” – would be needlessly cruel.

    Plus who has the time to spend cutting the list down to just 10?

    ; )

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  • Herb Sevush

    August 15, 2013 at 4:18 pm

    [Bret Williams] ” The vast majority of features were nothing new to legacy or Avid. Many of them had been in legacy or Avid for 10 or 15 years.”

    Native handling of all video types, sync via waveform, built in closed captioning, GPU enhanced effects, dynamic linking to AE and Photoshop yes indeed , all have been in Legacy and Avid for at least 15 years.

    The big difference between X and PPro is that after 2 full years of restoring features that actually have been in every NLE for the last 10 years X still can’t handle tape, or output OMF or EDLs. So Apples big advance is in not caring enough to try to fix what’s wrong, I guess Adobe should learn from them.

    Herb Sevush
    Zebra Productions
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  • Andy Field

    August 15, 2013 at 7:05 pm

    Sorry, I did not realize this was Final Cut Pro X, I drank the Kool-Aid forum

  • Steve Connor

    August 15, 2013 at 7:18 pm

    [Andy Field] “Sorry, I did not realize this was Final Cut Pro X, I drank the Kool-Aid forum

    Well now you know

    Steve Connor

    There’s nothing we can’t argue about on the FCPX COW Forum

  • Andy Field

    August 15, 2013 at 7:36 pm

    Herb, settle down and drink the Kool Aid.

  • Bill Davis

    August 15, 2013 at 8:07 pm

    [Herb Sevush] “X still can’t handle tape, or output OMF or EDLs.”

    It also doesn’t read punched tape, require you to feed it Bosco, or require a groom to regularly curry it’s hide with a wire brush.

    So what?

    X is clearly not so very much concerned with trying to remain ideally compatible with the way editing has traditionally been done – so If you need to continue editing just like you always have – don’t use it.

    OTOH, if you can move along and check out if there might be some new and interesting thinking when it comes to modern file based content manipulation – then you might want to check it out.

    Nothing more complex going on here than that.

    Know someone who teaches video editing in elementary school, high school or college? Tell them to check out http://www.StartEditingNow.com – video editing curriculum complete with licensed practice content.

  • Walter Soyka

    August 15, 2013 at 8:25 pm

    [Nicholas Zimmerman] “I’m teaching a class on Premiere tomorrow and I absolutely despise using it! … I’m doing it as a favor for a friend, and their lab doesn’t have X so it’s not even a real option for them, but I’ll sure as hell mention that for my work, I prefer X.”

    I do hope you’re able to represent Premiere fairly nonetheless. It’s a nice app, even if it’s not your favorite. There are pros and cons to every NLE on the market. Send your students here and we can all evangelize away 🙂

    Personally, I’d agree that FCPX is a good choice for a non-technical editor. I like its focus on the relationship between clips, which is the essence of how most editors constructs a story.

    That said…

    [Nicholas Zimmerman] “It’s for a group of photography students that have 0 experience with video. These kids don’t know what a codec is, they don’t care about timeline format, they just want to tell a story, i.e. edit.”

    Let’s turn this around.

    “It’s for a group of editorial students that have 0 experience with photography. These kids don’t know what a lens is, they don’t care about shooting JPEG versus RAW, they just want to take pictures, i.e., be photographers.”

    I think photography students would be disgusted, because this approach totally minimizes the technology of photography, the control of which is central to the art.

    We shouldn’t seek to fully eliminate understanding of technology from technical/artistic endeavors. Like chocolate and peanut butter, they’re better together.

    Walter Soyka
    Principal & Designer at Keen Live
    Motion Graphics, Widescreen Events, Presentation Design, and Consulting
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