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    Posted by Aindreas Gallagher on July 13, 2011 at 9:33 pm

    its from rob tinsworth on the FCP forum. It’s like about two posts down, but I thought its worth re-posting.

    https://forums.creativecow.net/thread/8/1137965


    “So I should be all over FCP-X and a new editing revolution right? Nope. I edit with pictures, not keywords. Even if I could get over the issues with collaboration/one big project/one big library/no video output; even if they fixed all those in a bells and whistles FCP-XI, I simply don’t agree that an edit should be driven by words.

    It’s the very ‘inefficiency’ of FCP7 that immerses me in a project. It’s endlessly scrubbing backwards and forwards through the rushes that means that when I’m recutting a scene, I know there’s that shot of that thing, which I never thought I’d use, which an assistant editor wouldn’t have flagged, which I wouldn’t even have looked at, but which turns out to be just the shot I need for this sequence.

    At a certain point in any edit, I get the feeling that I have the film in my head, like there’s an index in my brain. I think that’s much more powerful than metadata. Editing is about pictures.”

    doesn’t it ring true with anyone? that we’re being forced into stupidly autistic OCD organisation methods by a bunch of self regarding OCD asbergers software engineers?

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    Tracy Smith replied 14 years, 9 months ago 14 Members · 22 Replies
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  • Chris Kenny

    July 13, 2011 at 10:07 pm

    This criticism makes absolutely no sense. It’s easier to visually scrub through footage in FCP X than in FCP 7.


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  • Gary Huff

    July 13, 2011 at 10:26 pm

    I think what he is saying is that instead of easily scrubbing through footage, where it might be possible to miss a shot or just not grasp the entirety of it, he prefers to have to really dig through it so that he is intimately familiar with all of it, should some really small and seemingly mundane shot/segment/take/ect turn out to be really important.

  • Chris Kenny

    July 13, 2011 at 10:31 pm

    [Gary Huff] “I think what he is saying is that instead of easily scrubbing through footage, where it might be possible to miss a shot or just not grasp the entirety of it, he prefers to have to really dig through it so that he is intimately familiar with all of it, should some really small and seemingly mundane shot/segment/take/ect turn out to be really important.”

    That’s not my reading of what’s being said. It doesn’t account for the apparent antipathy being expressed toward keywording features.

    Anyway, it’s kind of silly to argue that FCP X is worse because if gives you the option of scrubbing through footage more efficiently.


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  • Aindreas Gallagher

    July 13, 2011 at 10:35 pm

    your selectively reductive arguments are, as ever, a weird joy to behold. Here’s a better quote from his piece.

    “I simply don’t agree that an edit should be driven by words.”

    the application is like the kind of OCD, I make lists everyday, tagging everything organisational app you see all over the appstore.
    OCD asbergers people love that kind of stuff. OCD asbergers people devised the organisational restructuring of this app. OCD asbergers types spend their whole lives talking about their OCD asbergers tagging schemes. This application would have me tagging my toes – I know – I can just drag to an existing tag – that’s a bit like a bin, but this godawful app has me popping up that tag dialog box an awful lot. It is word driven

    An opened bin say, in its own window has visual and spatial organisation.

    (would you look? now we’re all talking like editing software is a 22nd century heuristic physics lesson!)

    – but now I can’t look inside a bin, because there is no bin, because the Asbergers OCD types in the iTunes software team just shoved huge wads of OCD asbergers – colour code my socks – tagging down my throat.

    Its not really about the scrubber. although I do find the scrubber pretty annoying after a while.

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  • Aindreas Gallagher

    July 13, 2011 at 10:48 pm

    oops. I’m actually replying to chris there, or well, tagging in general.

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  • Chris Kenny

    July 13, 2011 at 10:50 pm

    Yeah, right. Tagging, a key feature of virtually every modern social networking/media platform, is only for “OCD asbergers” types. Also, apparently, for soccer moms, since aren’t they the target audience for FCP X?

    These objections seem to get sillier by the day.


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  • Aindreas Gallagher

    July 13, 2011 at 10:56 pm

    yeah, I know, I’m overstating it, and really the new tagging everything that moves thing evokes highly personal responses, but frankly chris, what is appropriate for your photo collection on “modern social networking/media platform” Facebook may not be appropriate as the sole organisational scheme for an editing system.

    And it is an OCD asbergers type thing. Or at least OCD asbergers types are the ones who really relish it. That said walter murch colour codes the hell out of his wall cards so maybe he likes it. Wait – does walter murch use this thing?

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  • Owen Wexler

    July 13, 2011 at 11:38 pm

    I work in television… inefficiency is a bad word here, period.

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  • Nelson Torres

    July 13, 2011 at 11:50 pm

    FCPX sure is an Ass Berger.

  • Aindreas Gallagher

    July 13, 2011 at 11:52 pm

    I worked in tellyland too for about 12 years, still do on a per client basis – I’m pretty efficient – I think he’s kind of describing his own process of synthesising the edit, its not necessarily inefficient.
    He just maybe resents the tagathon FCPX has become.

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