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  • Jamie Franklin

    June 23, 2011 at 8:17 pm

    Oh no…have mercy on him. He just asked for it lol

    Some of his points are “ok” but he really needs to just stop at – “I wrote my review from the perspective of an advanced amateur; I’m not a professional editor.”

    Ya…we know.

    I find it interesting that he starts with this: In 10 years of writing Times columns, I’ve never encountered anything quite like this.

    And what does THAT tell you? No matter how you spin it…obviously it didn’t say much to him since we’re the ones supposedly not getting it and are wrong…

  • Jamie Franklin

    June 23, 2011 at 8:23 pm

    I have to say, after sitting with what he said for 5mins, I can’t believe the temerity of this

    Professional editors should (1) learn to tell what’s really missing from what’s just been moved around, (2) recognize that there’s no obligation to switch from the old program yet, (3) monitor the progress of FCP X and its ecosystem, and especially (4) be willing to consider that a radical new design may be unfamiliar, but may, in the long term, actually be better.

    Honestly? Could a writer/review/response be more patronizing and ignorant….?

  • Simon Ubsdell

    June 23, 2011 at 8:33 pm

    Call me naive, but I have to say reading it and having digested his claim not to be an editor other than of his son’s school projects, it looks to me like his well-rehearsed answers were fed to him by someone far more knowledgeable. This couldn’t perhaps be an Apple press department doing its job, could it? Or is that overly cynical?

    Simon Ubsdell
    Director/Editor/Writer
    http://www.tokyo-uk.com

  • Bret Williams

    June 23, 2011 at 8:33 pm

    Wow. Really shows how little he knows about the subject at hand. Comments like “editors feel tvs offer better color fidelity” are ridiculous. They display video. Computer monitors do not display video.

    He also has a few other errors like “the old version didn’t export OMF either”. Pardon?

  • Ted Levy

    June 23, 2011 at 8:36 pm

    In a word….no!

  • Bret Williams

    June 23, 2011 at 8:37 pm

    I don’t think apple would’ve told him there was no omf export. No, I think it reads like someone that doesn’t know what he’s saying, but what he’s saying was from his own research that he didn’t quite understand.

  • Jamie Franklin

    June 23, 2011 at 8:39 pm

    It’s complete spin. You aren’t being cynical. HE is being cynical. Telling it like it is is reality, telling you reality is wrong and everything is going to be all right, now THAT is cynical…

  • Simon Ubsdell

    June 23, 2011 at 8:42 pm

    [Bret Williams] “I think it reads like someone that doesn’t know what he’s saying”

    I disagree – there was so much talk of “Apple is planning this, that and the other” for me to read it as anything other than an Apple-placed piece. Especially the incredibly arrogant dismissal of the entire editing community in the last paragraph!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    If the guy’s writing this purely as a journalist, he’s a damn fine one, is all I can say. He does actually have a lot of “good” (as in plausible, well-considered) answers rather than merely stupid ones, even if there are some small errors of fact.

    Simon Ubsdell
    Director/Editor/Writer
    http://www.tokyo-uk.com

  • Simon Ubsdell

    June 23, 2011 at 8:46 pm

    It seems to me from this:

    https://www.pcpro.co.uk/blogs/2011/06/23/its-amazingly-cheap-so-why-is-final-cut-pro-x-getting-such-bad-press/

    … that Apple are trying like crazy to brief mainstream journalists with the story that all pro editors are unhinged and/or unreasonable!

    Stop it, Apple – you’re just looking silly now and I’m sure you don’t really want that!!!!!

    Simon Ubsdell
    Director/Editor/Writer
    http://www.tokyo-uk.com

  • Mark Ziekert

    June 23, 2011 at 8:47 pm

    helping my son with a 20-minute final eighth-grade project.

    Naturally this guy has no clue. But only in the same way that sportswriters aren’t quarterbacks, crime reporters aren’t cops ect. He’s the compiler of other people’s “facts”. He sounded pretty confident about no OMF export in FCP 7.

    I’m more curious who’s pushing this guy on stage dodge vegetables.

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