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Am I the only one who hates this filmstrip view idea?
Posted by Bryan Keith on April 20, 2011 at 7:46 pmMy heart sank when I saw the “new and improved” organization window that apple is using instead of the traditional viewer window. On top of that, I’m bothered by how stoked they were to show off the “filmstrip” view in order to scan thru your media. It way work for some, but I don’t see this improving my workflow.
I really hope this is very customizable. To me it looks way too cluttered and busy. Just give me back my viewer window!!!
Bryan Keith
http://www.happylandstudio.comAndy Mees replied 14 years, 11 months ago 20 Members · 36 Replies -
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Mark Suszko
April 20, 2011 at 7:51 pmYes. You are the only one.
I think it is a little early to condemn or laud the filmstrip concept. Especially until you actually try it out for real. It is, after all, not unlike what Walter Murch uses when he cuts.
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Bryan Keith
April 20, 2011 at 8:00 pmWell I’m sure glad that Walter Murch likes it that way…but my point is that I sure hope apple make this a customizable feature. Not everybody has the same workflow and preferences.
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Mark Suszko
April 20, 2011 at 8:12 pmWe’ll all know in June, I guess. My gut doesn not have an NDA, and it tels me FCP has always had multiple ways to do any one function, plus a lot of customizeability. So my expectation is that you can mix and match the new and old features you like to some extent.
My personal take-away so far though was that someone in Cupertino has been watching how I work and taking notes all this time. Creepy!:-)
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Chris Borjis
April 20, 2011 at 8:45 pmseveral have mentioned that 3 point editing with a source window will be a configuration you can set it for.
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Douglas K. dempsey
April 20, 2011 at 8:54 pmAre you referring to Murch’s method of tacking up printed frame grabs from each shot and significant moment, on pasteboards around the room? If so, that not the equivalent of seeing a VERY limited number of tiny thumbnails representing a fraction of the film. And regardless, concerns over the missing Viewer have mor to do with a large side by side comparison of shot in Viewer bs shot in Canvas. And previewing a shot at full size for focus etc before cutting into the show. I love the organizational aspects of keywording, etc, and along with that, filmstripping is better than the old Browser, which I have said on Ken Stones forum, “is really just a crappy version on the Mac Finder.”. So the new interface is good. BUT we still wonder if we can easily preview a shot at healthy size, and compare to a second shot, without a lot of steps involving gathering shots into “Audition” and them cutting them into a fake sequence….and STILL not seeing them side by side. It’s a valid concern.
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Douglas K. dempsey
April 20, 2011 at 9:31 pmThat’s my point re: Murch. He does like to tack up frame grabs on the wall — but that doesn’t mean he still doesn’t rely on the current FCP Viewer for all of it’s own advantages.
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Aindreas Gallagher
April 20, 2011 at 9:36 pmI have had multiple iterations of freaking out about the filmstrip –
that being said – as an accompaniment/more likely use alternative/ to an invoked clip viewer (which I now pretty firmly believe it is) – its very interesting. in the use case scenario they showed, i found it highly seductive for quickly analysing and tagging ranges, perhaps not with with dense IV… but I honestly got a bit of a thrill up my leg, to quote chris mathews. it felt truly fast, the film strip did.
I could see myself quite enjoying that new joystick – a lot. People have made comparisons to discreet logic flame smoke methodology in the case of the filmstrip, and in conjunction with apple’s lift from *edit to view sequence options – i really do think its apparent apple have been having multiple brain-fest sessions here. They’re going for the total win. They’re trying to win the game.
I will only say this – cast your minds eye to the potential interface fully extended to a 27″ inch monitor, or across two monitors:
I. am. beyond. curious. about the kinds of options I have. It’s using 4/8 cores say, 8/16 gigs of ram, (that’s a desktop or a laptop) it’s continuously rendering – and exists as a full 32 bit float space. It really is no small beans this.http://www.ogallchoir.net
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Bill Davis
April 21, 2011 at 1:55 amSorry, but your contention that ” this is a valid concern” carries no weight.
This is because the way FCP X actually will function is currently unknown outside the Apple labs.
It was said over and over that this was a preview of the design in progress – and the demo was of the build in the same state as it was 3 months ago at the private previews.
It just struck me that WE EDITORS often get frustrated when clients demand to see edits “in progress” then waste our time with snap judgements about stuff that we’ve told them aren’t finished. “No,Bob, as I mentioned before, this is just PLACEHOLDER type. The final type will NOT look like this.”
It drives us crazy when clients can’t understand the DIFFERENCE between a rough cut and the final cut.
Yet so many here are doing EXACTLY the same thing.
Ironic, no?
“Before speaking out ask yourself whether your words are true, whether they are respectful and whether they are needed in our civil discussions.”-Justice O’Conner
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