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Activity Forums Canon DSLR Cameras 5D Mark III 1.2.1 Firmware is out

  • Ryan Holmes

    May 1, 2013 at 5:01 pm

    I’m not seeing much difference in the footage from the HDMI feed vs. compressed to card. I haven’t taken it into Resolve or anything but a side-by-side comparison doesn’t reveal much difference, in my tests.

    What do you think so far?

    I was bummed to discover that no audio comes out of the HDMI port for recording (unless there’s a way to enable that in the menus?). So syncing footage becomes a bit more of a burden….

    Ryan Holmes
    http://www.ryanholmes.me
    @CutColorPost

  • Warren Eig

    May 1, 2013 at 5:13 pm

    The only real difference is the color space 4:2:2 vs 4:2:0 If you shoot with Technicolor CineStyle and grade you will get a little more expanded range. As for syncing, I always shoot double system and use a slate. It takes mere seconds to set a marker at the sync points of the slate on the external audio and the video so it won’t really change my work flow. Then again, I did this manual on a sync block with 35 mm film and mag stock when I started as an apprentice editor at Roger Corman all those years ago.

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  • Ryan Holmes

    May 1, 2013 at 5:22 pm

    [Warren Eig] “The only real difference is the color space 4:2:2 vs 4:2:0”

    Yeah I think the footage may hold up better when we starting pushing it in post. Like I said, I’ve only looked at it on the monitor next to the CF card version and didn’t notice much (any?) difference. But the 422 would come in handy down the line, for sure!

    [Warren Eig] “As for syncing, I always shoot double system and use a slate.”

    We do this as well. The problem, for us, comes when we have a shoot that runs longer than the 29:59 recording limit (we do lots of long interviews and the 5DIII is often a B-cam for us). The clips after that initial file become a pain to sync up….though as you rightly point out your early career involved a good bit of brute force syncing so it can be done! 😉

    Ryan Holmes
    http://www.ryanholmes.me
    @CutColorPost

  • Warren Eig

    May 1, 2013 at 5:27 pm

    If you record to an external device with the new firmware, I think you can record much longer than 29.59 minutes.

    Warren Eig
    O 310-470-0905

    email: warren@babyboompictures.com
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  • Ryan Holmes

    May 1, 2013 at 5:39 pm

    [Warren Eig] “If you record to an external device with the new firmware, I think you can record much longer than 29.59 minutes.”

    Well you have to leave it recording for it to not fall asleep and close the shutter, unless that’s changed with this firmware. So the camera will still have to be recording to a CF card and restarted if you bump into that 29:59 mark. Right?

    But the external device could just stay running possibly even with the start/stop on the 5DIII….

    Ryan Holmes
    http://www.ryanholmes.me
    @CutColorPost

  • Warren Eig

    May 2, 2013 at 5:48 pm

    Ryan,

    Here’s a quote about the updated firmware and longer record times:

    “The new “mirroring” feature via the HDMI output allows video to be displayed on the rear LCD screen with or without scene and camera information while also outputting a clean video signal to a monitor or external recorder. An external recorder not only enables a video signal devoid of compression artifacts, but also allows a choice of preferred edit-ready codec, the ability to shoot in a variety of frame rates and bit rates, and longer record time. ”
    https://nofilmschool.com/2013/04/canon-clean-hdmi-firmware-v1-21-5d-mark-iii/

    Warren Eig
    O 310-470-0905

    email: warren@babyboompictures.com
    website: https://www.babyboompictures.com

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