• Square Box CatDV

  CatDV and RED Footage

  Posted by Ryan Robbins on June 21, 2011 at 3:41 pm

  Hello, I have been looking into using catDV for cataloging rED footage. CatDV has posted on their site (https://www.squarebox.co.uk/faq157.html) that it supports RED footage with REDCODE installed. However, I have not been able to find anyone asking questions, or talking about this at all.

  Does anyone use catDV in their RED workflow? If you do, how is it? and are you aware of a way to get REDCODE installed without CS4 installed?

  Bryson Jones replied 13 years, 3 months ago 8 Members · 16 Replies
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  Bryson Jones

  June 21, 2011 at 4:59 pm

  The folks who I know who are using it are mostly doing it to just catalog the assets as far as “where is it”. It’s a tough fit into the workflow because the RED uses so many files for a single “clip” whereas CatDV is centered on a more Quicktime based single file per clip methodology.

  That, coupled with the fact that RED shoots were traditionally shorter format have , I think, kept folks from adding CatDV into their workflows.

  Obviously the search and archive functions would be great but it’s hard to deal with the fact that for each “clip” in CatDV there are quite a few assets to track. It could be done, but mostly you’d use CatDV after the assets were in FCP and go from there while maintaining a “RAW asset” catalog for the original camera files.

  I’d be thrilled to hear how folks may have done this. Our own Kevin Duggan knows a bit about RED. 😉

  bryson

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  Bas Caminada

  June 29, 2011 at 8:00 am

  Hi,

  So is there no way you can view thumbnails of the red footage and convert to proxy or other formats.
  It is essential for us to keep track of what is backed up on LTO tape as you do not want to unarchive a
  tape first to know what red media is on there, so to keep a low quality proxy of a thumbnail would be brilliant to keep.

  Regards,

  Bas
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  Bryson Jones

  June 29, 2011 at 3:33 pm

  Remember, anything that Quicktime can see, CatDV can display. If your computer can’t preview or display it, then CatDV can’t. If your computer can display it, so can CatDV.

  bryson

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  Bas Caminada

  June 30, 2011 at 5:30 am

  Thanks,

  So with the Red codec installed it should be able to play the quicktime raper, which is not the case so maybe something else is wrong. Got all the EX3 (mp4) to read by installing the Calibrated codec so that seems to work beatifully. Pity my demo version 9 expired this morning so have to get a new license to test the RED workflow.

  On a slightly different topic, I believe you going to Mediatech in South Africa in july for a presentation. Are you going to talk about CATdv specifically or Digital media asset management in general if i may ask?

  Bas
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  Bryson Jones

  June 30, 2011 at 7:20 pm

  I’ll try to get a test on some RED stuff today. I haven’t looked at it in a while.

  As to the South African thing, I’ll be speaking on generalized asset management. But I’ll be there from Tuesday on and available for CatDV discussions. (Friday is my “free” day at the show)

  If you are near there, I’d love to see you. Stop in and say hello.

  bryson

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  Ryan Robbins

  June 30, 2011 at 8:45 pm

  Thanks for the feedback/discussion guys! Bryson, if you get around to doing those tests I would obviously be very interested in what you find.

  Thanks in advance for any additional help.
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  Chad Smith

  November 28, 2011 at 2:57 pm

  Any of you get CatDV 9 to see red files? Downloaded the standard version this morning to test it out and the app crashed when I pointed it to an R3D file. Searched the help and nothing comes up under R3D. I have redcode installed and I can play the proxy files down in quicktime. However when I restarted CatDV and pointed to a proxy file it just shows me the QT icon and not the clip. Any thoughts?
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  Rolf Howarth

  November 29, 2011 at 1:31 pm

  If you have the RED codecs installed you should be able to import the .mov reference movies and have them play in CatDV. You may need to check the “resolve data references” option under Advanced Media Handling prefs.
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  Chad Smith

  November 29, 2011 at 1:56 pm

  That worked. Thanks Rolf ! I can see the red files now!
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  Josiah Thiesen

  October 6, 2012 at 1:20 am

  Here is a work flow that has been working well for me in a collaborative environment:

  Redcine X Pro
  -> Create 640×480 h.264 Proxy
  -> Create 1080p EDIT ProRes Proxy

  Import EDIT ProRes Proxy to CatDV and place H.264 Proxy in directory CatDV is looking for their Proxy Files.

  Create an edit in CatDV

  Export XML

  Import Edit into Premiere

  Edit in Premiere (it uses the ProRes Proxy Files)

  Export XML to Davinci Resolve

  Add R3Ds to Davinci Resolve’s Media pool

  Color Correct R3Ds using Davinci

  Export to delivery format and XML to go back to Premiere

  With this, we get a fast Offline workflow yet still the raw R3D files for finishing.

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