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Resolve Mac and grading panel
As a distributor of DaVinci Resolve, we recently ran a Resolve training class and we used the new Resolve Control Surface grading panel and all who attended loved this panel since it is specifically designed to work with the Resolve so majority, if not all of the functions are right in front of the colorist with very little need to navigate through different pages as with the older 2K panel.
However given that on the Resolve Mac there will be support for third party panels, I’d like to get some idea what flavour of panels would most like to use with the Resolve Mac since there are a few out in the market.
Would be great to hear what everyone’s view is about this as currently we don’t represent any of the third party panels other than from Tangent Devices.
-chrispy
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would love to see the JL Coopers supported and to a lesser degree the Euphonix panel.
Where are you based? Would love to attend a Resolve training class as I’ve been away from the DaVinci world for a number of years and this summer once released going to jump back in with the Mac version and the new panel
Robbie Carman
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Hi Rob,
Any reason why you prefer the JLCooper over the Euphonix panel ?
I’m based in Singapore so that may be tad too far for you to travel all the way for the Resolve training but you are certainly welcome to attend our next one if you happen to be in Asia and timing is just right 🙂
-chrispy
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I already spoke with the folks at JLCooper, and they are anxiously awaiting the info from Black Magic so as to interface the Resolve with their Eclipse panel. I still work with the 2K panels on a Spirit everyday, but also drive a Scratch using the Tangents, and the Wave, and JLCooper with Apple Color. I tested the Euphonix with Walter Biscardi a few months ago. The track balls and luminance rings have a nice action for grading, but was not happy with the lack of LED functionality. Had to keep the software’s description page open to see how to navigate the various functions. The JLCooper, on the other hand has a terrific display, and many programmable key functions, that I labeled myself. The Wave works well, but there again, my wrist got tired after a while from having to use the mouse too much when working on a large project. I have been coloring for 30 plus years now, and am way excited about the Resolve news from Black Magic!
I am presently testing some Red footage on the Linux version with the Resolve panels with Film Systems on the East Coast here in Alpharetta, Georgia. Now that’s the way to go if you can. Using the Resolve panels are not much different from the 2K panels. -
I think Ron summed it up pretty well! Ron Film Sys already have the new panel in??????????
Robbie Carman
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Beta testing… and several Resolve systems are already out there… even announced on this forum.
You know, there’s the ones who count, and then the rest of us.
I’m in absolutely no mood to re-capitalize, so if Resolve doesn’t work with my present configuration, then its a non-starter. I don’t see any advantage in spending all that money all over again to wind up with pretty much the same working environment, and totally indistinguishable to the paying customers.
I specifically set up for Silicon Color Final Touch with ATI, AJA, and Tangent-200 (K/TS/BK) ethernet panels, then “absorbed” the dumbing-down treatment that Apple gave to “COLOR”. If the new software app can’t do it, I’m not interested, its that simple.
jPo
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I’m considering what panel to get for the moment of truth: the unboxing of Da Vinci in my very own suite at work.
I’m drooling after the Da Vinci panel of course, but will it justify the price tag vs. the Euphonix? I had the pleasure of testing the Euphonix panel a few days and I was very pleased by the size and ergonomics.
The news about Da Vinci caught me off guard, thus I have not ordered a panel yet. Therefore I’m thinking about “going all the way” with the Da Vinci panel.
So, again. will the price tag really justify the difference and between these two ?
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First of all, the Euphonix isn’t qualified, yet.
Second point is that the pro-sumer grade panels developed for Apple COLOR aren’t in the same class as the purpose-built daVinci panels.
Third point is that the Resolve panel will ONLY work with the Blackmagic software, but it is designed expressly for that purpose, and of course, will work perfectly and seamlessly with it.If I had it do do all over again, I probably wouldn’t have ever considered Final Touch, but, that’s history.
jPo
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As of this video ( https://www.macvideo.tv/editing/features/index.cfm?articleId=3222371 ) they’re looking into it. Promising news.
So it’s not a matter of “if”. Support for third party panels will be there. The thing is: will it be trowing money out the window buying a Da Vinci panel vs. something else.
What I’m thinking is that the only reason to get a Da Vinci panel is to let go of the Wacom and keyboard as main tools for this circus we’re doing – but can the price difference really make up for it ?
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Ola…I think the best way to answer your question is to get an opportunity to sit down in front of the DaVinci Resolve Control Surface panel and drive it to get a feel. As Joseph has mentioned, this panel was built from ground up specifically for Resolve as a replacement for the aged 2K panel. Majority of the functions are right in front of you so there is no need to navigate through different pages of menus to access those functions and this is where it sets itself different from the other panels.
If you are going to be grading 8-10 hours a day with a client sitting next to you, you’ll probably want a panel with immediate access to the functions. I’m not saying you can’t do the same with the other panels but you get my drift. You have to get your hands on it to feel the difference and you will.
As to whether the price tag justifies, well I guess that really depends on how much grading you are going to be doing. If it’s a full time grading suite, yes it definitely justifies the price tag and remember prior to NAB this panel cost alot more.
And also remember, when you get the Resolve Control Surface panel, it comes bundled with a Resolve Mac license already so the panel cost is actually US$29K.
-chrispy
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It’s simply about ROI. Return on Investment.
I don’t see myself generating £25-30k of cash outside of my living costs to justify spending on the full panel yet. If I was planning on doing that I’d get a lease purchase on a Baselight or Film Master. Plus I already have the Tangent Wave which’ll suffice until I decide whether Resolve OS X is the way forward.
I fully expect other companies, such as Digital Vision and Film Light (they sort of are already), to follow suit with ‘offline grading solutions’ for low cost, before people head into the online grading suite to conform it, watch it back with proper monitoring and adjust the project file where necessary.
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