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Ronald Anderson
May 20, 2010 at 7:38 amIt is my understanding that the Linux version of Resolve will also operate with the older 2K panels via a 9 pin connector. Now that may be a way to save a few dollars if you could find a second hand set of 2K panels. I am thinking of an A /B switch in a Spirit room to run Resolve and telecine as a dual function suite.
With more projects being cut on Final Cut these days however, Resolve has to support Pro Res, and be able to round trip the color project to FCP. Hopefully this functionality will follow soon. -
Joseph Owens
May 20, 2010 at 5:10 pm[Jack Jones] “I fully expect other companies, such as Digital Vision and Film Light (they sort of are already), to follow suit with ‘offline grading solutions’ for low cost, before people head into the online grading suite to conform it, watch it back with proper monitoring and adjust the project file where necessary.“
This will next-to-never happen. If the budget is there for a big iron shop, there is no point in taking it there for “tweaks”. This is an insult to A-List colorists. Pioneering a couple of looks is fine, and I appreciate the effort myself, because the conversation is immediate and instant. Aha! This is what you want… let’s go to it.
But where the budget is not there and the auteur needs total and complete domination over every aspect of the continuum… there is no lead-in path to “online”, because there is simply no motivation to do it. Its done, and a producer will reason the money and, more importantly, the time, has been spent. For good or ill under whatever circumstances and environment, the job has been judged “good enough”, probably without much knowledge of what that is,exactly. Trot out the for example, “its only for the net”, argument here if its a justification to look for.
It used to be that the “skill” people attached themselves to the shops that could afford to pay them and continue to amortize the investment in the equipment needed to provide a platform for them. And that attracted the clients who were looking for that experience. But they’re not paying anymore, none of them, at any level.
Its an old and boring argument concerning dilution… but I would find it amazing if an actuary got involved at some point and said, “no more lending” to post-production — it isn’t a business model. There’s too much chaos and NO ROI to support it anymore. What was a reasonable investment even 6 months ago is now obsolete and underwater… How many of the general American population is now in exactly that situation, and what’s being done about it? “Thrown to the wolves” sound about right?
Consider that “top” editors used to try to get employment at top shops, but with the advent of “off-line”, the situation that evolved was: absolutely no glamour or reward to being an “online” editor if all you do is conform and tweak. It takes a special personality to do that, and it is beyond the least creative work in the world; the only challenge usually being how to fix all the mistakes that were made offline.
What exactly is the skillset for an “online” colorist? My instinct plus educated guess, would be –reduced to worse-than-dailies. No, all that poor drone would be doing is grading out the inconsistencies and that’s all. So where and what will the talented A-Listers do? And a big iron shop is going to pay what(?!) a big-iron salary to this person… to do rote work. Better have a really good dental plan.
Starting to get the feel of a real estate bubble to me. I have to wonder as post gets segmented into isolated one-person “democracy”, whether it actually freezes the dialog between strata of production and less creativity is the net result? There is a dictum that you do have to please yourself at some point, but there is also a vast opportunity for “me”-diocrity, that a truly talented team with appropriate tools in a collaborative environment obviously helps to avoid.
jPo
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Christopher Tay
May 21, 2010 at 2:36 pmHi Ronald,
Only the network 2K panel works with Resolve, not the serial 2K panel. If you have a network 2K panel, you can get an 9pin A/B switch but the actual connectivity is still RJ45 so you’ll need a 9pin to RJ45 adapter. I’ve set this up before in a 2K suite and it works very well.
The Resolve Linux won’t be able to support ProRes as there are no ProRes codec on the Linux platform so it’ll need to be transcoded to Uncompressed codec or convert to DPX. The Resolve Mac will have support for ProRes but have not seen how the roundtripping will work with Resolve and FCP but I’m sure the DaVinci guys are working on that.
-chrispy
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Dwaine Maggart
May 22, 2010 at 2:13 amA comment about panels. The 2K never supported the older serial style panels. Only dui systems and older support serial panels. 2K supports network panels only. And yes, existing 2K network control panels can be used as Resolve panels, (as can existing dui network panels). But only on the Linux Resolve systems, not currently with the Mac Resolve software, as it only supports USB panels.
Switching DaVinci network panels between 2K and (Linux)Resolve use is as simple as switching or patching a CAT5 connection between the 2K Linux PC, and the Resolve GUI PC. A panel power cycle is required after switching between systems.
Dwaine Maggart
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Sascha Haber
May 26, 2010 at 3:48 pmWhat i really want to pay for is a Tangent Wave in a aluminum casing for 3000 bucks or something…
I use the BK 200 at work and the Wave on gigs sometimes, and I really like its compact functionality , but the feeling…omg
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Jake Blackstone
May 31, 2010 at 9:46 pmPeter Chamberlain posted this couple of days ago on Reduser as an answer to panels support question.
“we will support a number of third party panels for the Mac system and not only USB based.”
Which means there is hope for ethernet based panels, like Euphonics. -
Joseph Owens
June 1, 2010 at 5:56 pm[jake black] “”we will support a number of third party panels for the Mac system and not only USB based.” “
Well, this is encouraging, but lest we forget, its only one of the components that are required to flesh out a functional offering. I just hope the button mapping isn’t too wackily different between what I’m used to in COLOR and Resolve.
One of the buttons launches all of our nuclear weapons, and the other serves up a delicious hot latté… errr… which one was which again? ….oops.
jPo
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