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  • Keying out white… Trickier than usual

    Posted by Dylan Hargreaves on June 24, 2015 at 6:10 pm

    Hi folks,

    Trying to key out the white background of some stock footage of a goldfish, so it’s swimming on black. I’ve tried a few methods and none are working well enough – luma key, luma matting, extract, Colorama output phase, (as per a sky replacement.)

    The problem is, the goldfish fins are very whispy and its underside is pretty bright, so it’s either posterizing nastily or leaving a big white outline – even with a choker.

    Am I onto a loser here? Is it time to find some alternative stock, or is there one last solution that I’ve missed?

    Thanks in advance!

    D

    Walter Soyka replied 10 years, 10 months ago 2 Members · 3 Replies
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  • Walter Soyka

    June 25, 2015 at 12:40 am

    Without seeing the footage, it’s tough to tell, but…

    You know how you can use UnMult [link] to generate alpha from black? You can do it with white, too. You just need to make an UnMult Sandwich: Invert, UnMult, Invert.

    Sometimes it’s nice to top your UnMult sandwich with a little Levels (Alpha channel).

    Walter Soyka
    Designer & Mad Scientist at Keen Live [link]
    Motion Graphics, Widescreen Events, Presentation Design, and Consulting
    @keenlive   |   RenderBreak [blog]   |   Profile [LinkedIn]

  • Dylan Hargreaves

    June 25, 2015 at 9:02 pm

    Thanks Walter – good to know for next time!

    Ended up going for quite a radical technique:

    1. Went to pet store

    2. Purchased goldfish & tank

    3. Shot goldfish against black background

    4. Voila

    And now my kids have a fish!

  • Walter Soyka

    June 27, 2015 at 4:06 pm

    [Dylan Hargreaves] “3. Shot goldfish against black background”

    Well, that’s cheating 🙂

    Walter Soyka
    Designer & Mad Scientist at Keen Live [link]
    Motion Graphics, Widescreen Events, Presentation Design, and Consulting
    @keenlive   |   RenderBreak [blog]   |   Profile [LinkedIn]

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