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no more flash, which output for lower third titles with encoded alpha channel AE & media encoder question:
Posted by Tom Lansford on July 5, 2014 at 8:26 amAdobe removed support for flv / flash
They want me to use H.264
I need to render titles with alpha encoded. In the media encoder, the only option I found for this was the flv output… So I have used it for a while.
Now it is gone. The only option is the AE render queue, lossless with encoded alpha – takes forever and generates titles that are 80 to 100 times larger than compressed file formats.
I have scoured the media encoder – I could be blind, but I have not found a way to output titles with alpha…
It can’t be true, so I hope someone can give me a tip here.
I want to use the media encoder for output if possible. I’d like to use a compressed format for title output.
Thanks for the help – Tom
Kevin Camp replied 12 years, 2 months ago 4 Members · 12 Replies -
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Brian Charles
July 5, 2014 at 4:26 pm[Tom Lansford] “I want to use the media encoder for output if possible. I’d like to use a compressed format for title output.”
Adobe recommends using a legacy version of Media Encoder for flv output.
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Tom Lansford
July 5, 2014 at 11:50 pmI use the lower third for titling and the titles are used in PPro.
It doesn’t matter if the output is FLV or some other format. I just want a title that works in PPRo
I found this while working on 2 systems (mac) and one had updated to the version which no longer supports flv.
It looks like such an obvious usage that I can’t imagine that there is not a standard way to do this provided by Adobe, and that I must be overlooking something obvious.
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Tom Lansford
July 5, 2014 at 11:56 pmrunning on macbooks.
It sounds like this might not be possible using the standard codecs supported in CC?
that would be odd.
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Tom Lansford
July 6, 2014 at 12:00 am[Brian Charles] “Adobe recommends using a legacy version of Media Encoder for flv output. “
yep, I saw that. I’m running on cc and never looked at how to keep a legacy version running in parallel with updates…
BTW, I do not care about flv per se. I just want to do titling with an Alpha channel. I could use any output. It would seem to me to be a simple thing and at the moment, I am making the assumption that there is a way to do this using the standard means of output from Adobe CC, and that I just have not found it or recognized it yet!
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Brian Charles
July 6, 2014 at 12:50 am[Tom Lansford] “BTW, I do not care about flv per se. I just want to do titling with an Alpha channel. I could use any output. It would seem to me to be a simple thing and at the moment, I am making the assumption that there is a way to do this using the standard means of output from Adobe CC, and that I just have not found it or recognized it yet!”
When you select the Output Module set it to RGB+Alpha, then select the format you want. Note: not all formats support Alpha.
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Tom Lansford
July 6, 2014 at 4:52 amLet me add information to the post
The media coder still outputs flv.
The real problem for me is that PPro no longer reads in flv – it is declared an unsupported format. This is where I am currently stuck, although I expect support for writing out flv will end soon too.
The reason I use flv is to create titles from AE for PPro and I use the alpha channel. FLV is the only output format from the media encoder that expressly presents the option to encode the alpha channel. So I do not care about FLV itself, just the right way to export titles.
So – how do you guys generate your titles in AE that you use in PPro? That is really what I want to do!
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Brian Charles
July 6, 2014 at 5:45 am[Tom Lansford] “The reason I use flv is to create titles from AE for PPro and I use the alpha channel. FLV is the only output format from the media encoder that expressly presents the option to encode the alpha channel. So I do not care about FLV itself, just the right way to export titles. “
If you encode using ProRes 444 or DnXHD 444 you will encode an alpha channel as long as the source composition contains one.
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Tom Lansford
July 6, 2014 at 8:05 amworks, thanks …
however,
1) large file size
2) not in the media encoderI prefer the media encoder, but that can be dealt with. The large file size can be worked around for a while, but it would be good to get back to 1mb files and not 80-100mb files
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Tom Lansford
July 6, 2014 at 8:07 amjust tried your recommendation and have the DNxHD in the media encoder.
It generates a 184mb mxf file compared to a 1mb flv file 🙂
But …
neither AE nor PP can read the mxf file…
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