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  • Jan? I have a major HVX problem I can’t seem to get help with

    Posted by Timothyd on November 13, 2007 at 11:25 pm

    Hello Jan, (and anyone else that reads this)

    I have a very new (1.5 month old) HVX200 that seems to be defective.

    It has jerky looking motion on any moving shots, and it seems like, after much investigation that the camera is somehow adding pull-down to everything, not just 24p footage.

    The problem is most obvious when doing a pull (starting zoomed all the way out) with anything with horizontal and/or vertical lines in the shot. It seems to have duplicate frames every 4-5 frames… Is it even possible that the camera could be doing this? Either way, I had to miss out on a great opportunity to capture some nice HD footage for our archive today and had to shoot in SD with a DVX instead (not a big deal, but I wanted to have the stuff for the archive.)

    I’m wondering if this is a problem that anyone else has had? It happens with every framerate, both progressive and interlaced, and it happens when shooting to P2, Firestore FS-100 and to tape… Same problem each time, but more noticeable with progressive footage…

    Thanks in advance for any help anyone might be able to offer. By the way, I did not notice this problem at first, but I have footage that I shot right after I got the camera that clearly shows the problem.

    Thanks so much,

    Tim

    Noah Kadner replied 18 years, 8 months ago 7 Members · 14 Replies
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  • Richard Harrington

    November 14, 2007 at 12:06 am

    If your camera is defective, CONTACT the MANUFACTURER.

    No amount of goodwill or helpful advice will fix it.

    Your camera comes with a 1 year warranty and there is a certificate and such with your manual and camera paperwork.

    https://www.pasc.panasonic.com/WhereTo/FindServicerNS.asp?Pass=1

    Gear is sometimes defective… just contact them and make a warrantee claim. There are authorized repair centers in many major areas of the country or you can ship it.

    Richard M. Harrington, PMP

    Author: Photoshop for Video, Understanding Adobe Photoshop, and ATS:iWork

  • Timothyd

    November 14, 2007 at 12:53 am

    Hi Richard,

    I have contacted my sales rep, who has contacted an engineer at Panasonic who is supposed to be checking out some samples of the footage. But it is taking a long time, and I have shoots to do… From my perspective since I have proof the camera was defective when I got it because I have footage that I shot the second day out that clearly shows the problem (I’m sure the day one footage shows it too, but it doesn’t have a pull so it is much harder to see.

    Anway, I was just hoping Jan would let me know if this is a known issue, and therefore cut to the chase and get me a new camera or get it fixed asap.

    Tim

  • Richard Harrington

    November 14, 2007 at 1:08 am

    Not known issue… e’ve never seen tat in 2 years shooting…

    I’d suggest goign directly to manufactuer

  • Jan Crittenden livingston

    November 14, 2007 at 1:09 am

    Hi,

    When I read the first description of the problem it sounded like you had the Image Stabilization on while having it on a tripod. It can make some very odd looking effects. If this is not it, I suggest that you contact Panasonic Service immediately, do not wait for your sales rep to call you back, call the service center. Follow the link above in one of the previous responses.

    And no this is not a common occorance. I have never heard of the camera doing what you say it is doing. Frankly I think it would be somewhat impossible to do that.

    Best,

    Jan

    Jan Crittenden Livingston
    Product Manager, HPX500, HVX200, DVX100
    Panasonic Broadcast & TV Systems

  • Timothyd

    November 14, 2007 at 1:26 am

    Thanks for the quick response Jan, I truly appreciate it.

    I had thought the same thing about image stabilization, but it does it whether stabilization is on or off, I can see why it would look jerky if it was trying to stabilize an image that was supposed to have a lot of movement in it.

    Anyway, it really looks like duplicated frames or something to me, it has a hesitating look to it, which makes horizontal lines (in particular) look very jerky during pulls, but it generally screws up most any shot in a kind of subtle way. It just makes the video look jerky like poor animation or a computer trying to slog through footage that is too high bandwidth for it. (I had originally thought that I needed to set up a RAID in my computer, and once I did and saw that it did nothing to help I started to do more investigating.

    If you are interested in seeing some sample clips I’d be happy to send you a link via e-mail.

    Thanks so much,

    Tim

  • Noah Kadner

    November 14, 2007 at 3:05 am

    Dood- call the service center already and get the warranty service you as an owner are entitled. Jan and this forum are amazing but they cannot fix your camera remotely…

    Noah

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  • Timothyd

    November 14, 2007 at 3:45 am

    Ok,

    Number one, I am not trying to flame here. I chose the HVX200 over all of the competition because I really like Panasonic, was impressed with the footage and also my experience using DVX’s.

    Number two, I was trying to find out if this is known problem, and thought some other HVX owners may have had the problem and might know a simple fix…

    Is that ok with you dood?

  • Jan Crittenden livingston

    November 14, 2007 at 3:52 am

    Hi Tim,

    You are new to the camera. The phenomena you are describing sounds not like duplicate frames but more like the OIS on while on a stable platform. Check this in a quiet scientific mode and recreate the problem in a non-stress-filled environment.

    Go from there and call the service center.

    Best,

    jan

    Jan Crittenden Livingston
    Product Manager, HPX500, HVX200, DVX100
    Panasonic Broadcast & TV Systems

  • Timothyd

    November 14, 2007 at 4:03 am

    Hi Jan,

    I did test it with numerous times with no stabilization on. If it is because of stabilization then it is somehow staying on when it is turned off and the hand symbol is not on the screen. But I can see why you might think it was caused by that.

    It really seems like it must be pull-down or something like that to me.

    I’ll call the service center if I don’t get some feedback from my sales rep in the next day or so.

    I just wanted to see if there was a known issue with some cameras. Let’s face it, anything with a computer in it can go bonkers, so I thought I’d check if you or anyone else knew anything about the problem.

    Thanks,

    Tim

  • Dean Sensui

    November 14, 2007 at 4:51 am

    Might be something to do with the way your edit system is configured. It could be adding frames or doing some sort of odd pulldown that you’re seeing.

    Try taking a look at the footage played back directly from the camera and compare that with what you’re seeing in the computer.

    If it’s OK from the camera then there’s something else outside the camera that’s causing your problem.

    Dean Sensui — Imagination Media Hawaii

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