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1080 24pa work flow
I have had the HVX for 18 months now and today I tried to shoot 1080i 24pa mode to do some tests.
When I get it to FCP to transfer it I go into the prefs in the P2 transfer area and select the check box for ‘Remove Advanced Pulldown and Duplicated Frames.’
When the footage is in FCP is says that it is DVCPRO 1080p30 but the frame rate is 23.98.
I created a DVCPRO 1080 24p timeline and it wants to be rendered. When I play the clip in the viewer the TC goes to 29 and then to 0 again. I would think that it would go to 23.
I check the camera settings and they are set to 1080i 24pa.
What am I doing wrong???
Thanks,
-Lars
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8 Replies
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Is your timelines is your Editing Timebase set to 24 or 23.98, it should be 23.98
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You know, I select the default that is 1080i 24p from FCP. Since I am shooting 1080i 24pa I would assume that I would edit this in the 24p time line. I think it is all 23.98 since my understanding of 1080i that it is a drop frame format where 720 is a non drop.
What I get lost in is that under the format option when I see what the footage is it says 23.98 but DVCPRO 1080p30. It plays as if it is a 30 since the TC goes to 29 and then to 0 again.
Something is not right with FCP I think.
-Lars
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lars
I’ve had the same experience. Frustrating. Somehow I think I’m missing a step or something. Then again it might be a FCP issue.Thanks
Paul Colin,
Cezanne Studio,NYC -
I have had no problem in 720 24p mode. After reading some posts by Berry he says that the 1080 format is less compressed. so I was trying this format to test when I came into this problem.
I ended up exporting to After Effects and transcoding to Pro Res at full res and working that way for my test shots. This seemed to work out for small things.
-Lars
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Hey Lars. Thats great your doing actual tests as opposed to guessing. I wish I can do tests. Hey, Im shooing my feature at 1080pa on the hvx-200 as well, and using fcp advanced pulldown to work in 1080 23.98fps as well.
Hows your editing and testing going?
Does it look better than the 720p stuff? Does it look like a cheesy blur you get in hdv or actual progressive, non blurred footage as the 720p stuff?
See you later.
Clint Nitkiewicz Hern
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For me so far I would have to say it is hard to see a big difference. The 1080 24pa footage looks nice. I can’t see any interlace artifacts happening. I shot some very thin wires as one of my tests to see if there was an problem capturing to an interlaced stream. But both 720 and 1080 look nice.It’s almost very hard to tell them apart.
The only thing that sucks is FCP isn’t treating the 24pa correctly. I’m dropping it into After Effects and exporting out Apple Pro Res 422 and editing in a true 1920 x 1080. This is converting the clips to a 24p. The clips seem to already be 23.98 after FCP finishes with them but there is something odd in the time line and it is forcing me to render it anyway.
-Lars
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https://seminars.apple.com/seminarsonline/fcspanasonic/us-media/fcppanasonic_300.mov
Thats so weird Lars huh. I have fcp 6.0, and it should work, but its not.
I go to the easy setup and choose;
Format: panasonic dvcpro hd
use: dvcpro hd 1080pA24
rate: 23.98I click okay and it tells me “Unable to locate external devices”, etc. I click continue, ignore.
And the defaults are loaded back in the timeline! 29.97 at 720×480, why does it do that?
I dont want to load the camera, I already have all the files from the p2s on my hard drives, along with the txt files.
I really dont want to rener out of a.e or shake, thats a big process, im filming a feature, haa. Imagine.
Thats weird, fcp said they can integrate the p2 workflow quite easily. Hey lars, check out this video on the p2 workflow, its an online seminar through apple, why cant we simply do this why dont i see the same options as in the tutorial. Check it out k.
please watch it, it may shed some light to us.
https://seminars.apple.com/seminarsonline/fcspanasonic/us-media/fcppanasonic_300.mov
Clint Nitkiewicz Hern
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That is pretty much how I got the footage in to work with it in FCP 5.1. Version 6 is different and you know have to hit COMMAND + Shift + 8 to bring up that same window.
The problems that I had were not the same as yours. FCP was not treating the footage the way it was supposed to. FCP was thinking that my 23.98 footage had TC that was 29.97. It may have been a problem that I was causing and I am still runnign some tests to find out.
Thanks for the video link!
-Lars
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